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Nope. I have limited resources so want to concentrate on what I love best. Isaac is my buddy and a great flock leader and I'm happy so many folks are interested in Delawares now that weren't before, some partially due to him, but Rocks are my first love. Can't do it all, can't afford it anymore. Tasha was okay and I hadn't planned to sell her, but realistically, I'd rather have layers I could also reproduce if need be and I didn't want to hatch eggs from Tasha. I would hatch BRs or even BRs over Ameraucanas or EEs, but no more Delawares (though the Delaweggers are really super sweet and fun birds). Tasha went to live with a lady who owns her half brother, Ezra, formerly known as Chipper.
 
Sounds great Cyn.

It's cold this morning... I'm guessing low 60's. I have a jacket on!

Wanted to tell all of you to have a great time at LH's this weekend! I know that you will enjoy it! Who has met who?
 
LH has been to my place for a weekend already. And when she was here, I asked Beth down for dinner to surprise her and meet up--I had already met Beth when she came down to pick up some Delaware chicks awhile before that. I haven't met anyone else on SDWD in person other than Scott, unless I'm just brain damaged and don't remember.


That dingbat Speckled Sussex, Sarah, has gotten herself into some crop trouble. Seems sour to me or something. She kept jerking her neck sideways yesterday, like trying to swallow something that had gotten stuck, but seemed to be breathing okay. Tom did catch her and was massaging it and said she spit up something (which he neglected to tell me yesterday
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) then she seemed better so he put her back. She is skittish as heck and I can't catch her to save my life, but finally told her she could just die if she wanted to, that I was done trying to help her sorry butt
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Tom finally caught her and yep, seems a bit gassy. It's just her, no one else, not even her constant companion the Silver Phoenix, Molly, so Miss Sarah is in the broody cage in the bantam coop with just water containing some copper sulfate as an anti fungal agent. This is why I hate having skittish birds! I swear, she is certainly no Nelda! Nelda was never like this loony thing. I swear, I'm about ready to bring her up to KY to give her away. She'll probably settle down when she gets closer to laying age and she will have to be separated from Molly eventually anyway since Molly will be staying in this coop and Sarah was slated to live with the main flock, if I kept her at all.

This is too funny, guys. My son sent me the link:

 
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Cyn I just posted that in my Facebook page earlier.
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Yes I hate skittish chickens! Ya know that's why the EE (not named cause I couldn't think of anything nice to name her
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) is being re-homed. And she hates the Dels. Pecks them ALL THE TIME... even chases them on range! I dusted her today, and she was a handful... Gah. I have to handle all of my chickens twice a week. Not having anymore more skittish around here, except for the project Lav Ameraucanas....

Oh, and I have a white rock leaving too. Pepper will be my last hatchery girl. I am so attached to her, could NOT ever let her go...

Edited to add: I have only practiced strict bio-security since the fall. I just read that unless you do, and keep your chickens in a wild bird free enclosure, than you are not MG/MS free. To be honest, I am considering culling my whole flock and starting anew, with new coops and everything. Will just get eggs from breeders that I trust. Sigh... I just don't want people coming to test my flock. I bet they are all infected and then my yard would have to be burned. Either this, or I won't add anymore chickens. But... I need to add more.
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I just read that unless you do, and keep your chickens in a wild bird free enclosure, than you are not MG/MS free.

Well, not exactly. You may not can guarantee you can stay MG free, but you cannot assume that you do have MG in the flock, either. If you do, you'll become way too relaxed on biosecurity.

I can understand not wanting to know if there is an MG positive bird in the flock because then, you'd have to make a hard decision, but I may have mine tested one day. I told William (Pine Grove) that I might allow him to test my flock if he came up this way in the future, that I'd trust him with my birds. There have been no symptoms of any respiratory illness here in the over five years of having chickens, but even so, I may be surprised by what he finds. With no symptoms to indicate anything is wrong, why would I ever think anything was wrong, right? I keep their immune systems as strong as I possibly can so that if they are exposed, they won't necessarily contract whatever it is. All you can do is the best you can do, is what I always say. Operate from a position of knowledge and make decisions based on facts.
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Thank you Cynthia! My problem is... I'm not sure if they burn your yard or not for MG/MS, but if they do, I won't test. Because I feel that it is more than likely that they will test positive. My flock went without any bio-security and a death (think it was botullism) for 6 months or so. I was just not aware of what I am now.

I will certainly have my flock tested UNLESS they will burn my yard if tested positive.
 
Nick, to my knowledge, the state doesn't do anything to your yard even if your birds test positive. What you do is up to you, I'd think. If it's one of the really nasty things like pullorum, there may be other stuff they do to clean up the site and help you eradicate everything, but I really don't know the details.
 
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Uuuuh, excuse me? Nick, if you have a disease outbreak in your flock, and you're aware of it, then letting a single bird off of your property is probably not only in violation of a number of state ordinances regarding diseased birds, but it would be danged unethical to do as well!
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Get them tested boy! You have a moral obligation to do so before you even let other chicken fanciers view your birds, let alone rehoming a single one!

And fer gawds sake! IF you even suspect that you do have a virulent disease in your flock, Nick, DO NOT go traipsing into your local feed store wearing the same shoes you wear out around your chickens. Just ask Gloria Jean [aka crazyhen] how easily these things can get spread! She lost her entire flock because of one single thoughtless person who visited one day, carrying the disease on his shoes!
 
Amy...I believe what Nick is saying is that what he has read is all flocks with wildbirds around are infected....he did not say he had any sick birds, he said just the opposite, only 1 loss from botulism suspected.

Nick, you cannot be sure unless your birds are protected from wildbirds and you practice completely insane bio-security. There is only so much you can do without spending every waking moment and each step you take, monitored and recorded. The officials do not MAKE you do anything...they will tell you the only way to get rid of it is to cull the flock, burn the bodies and remove all the soil they were on etc etc. and not to put chickens in that area for x amount of time. The choice you make is your own.

I look at it this way and it is a matter for personal consideration and personal choice....

I can only guarantee no wildbird feces getting near my birds if I put them in a fully self-contained building with all ventilation openings sealed with hardwire cloth. If I build a run completely covered with screening or hardwire cloth an infected bird can land on it, deposit feces and it either falls through or gets washed through by the rain and I have an infected flock that quick. So neither is a good choice for my birds so I opt to allow them to be chickens, ie range, see sunshine, fresh air, scratch, eat bugs, kill mice and snakes, swing on my front porch swing or whatever else chickens want to do...they are healthy and happy. Now, their natural lives could be cut short by something they get into but at least I know I let them be chickens and I would rather do that than to make them live in a sterile enclosed contained building where they would not be happy or allowed to be chickens.

So...you let them be chickens and do what you can on the bio-security end....watch your shoes, people around your birds and etc etc. And enjoy them and let them enjoy their lives. That is the choice I make for my birds and myself. But on the other hand, I am responsible enough to care about other's birds such as...before I went to Cynthia's, I bought a new pair of jeans, new socks and a new pair of shoes....I put them in the car and actually put on the shoes in the car so they never touched my ground here. I am not sure, I may have actually left them at Cyn's or I tossed them in the trash when I got back here but I cared enough to do everything I could to make sure that nothing from here went there. I cannot even imagine how sick I would have been had I taken so much as a microbe from my ground to hers and Suede had gotten sick or any of her birds. But reality is...you can only do so much short of insanity and what I consider cruelty to your birds.


Speaking of birds....Sarah and I are in hatching madness....I have been incubating eggs for her and us....I just took some silkie eggs to her house to go in the hatcher and I missed one, so today when I went to check the temp and hunidity of the eggs in my bator I found this waiting for me

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She had some hatch at her place yesterday and also some of these today....large fowl showgirl wannabes

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I also wanted to share an update with you of my mottled orps I got from Sarah a few weeks back....I will have to get a pic of the older one who is predominately black with white markings now but this is the younger of the two...

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And as this is the sdwd thread....ahem Ms Fattie on the porch swing where she swings each day and leaves her egg when she leaves

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Oh yeah! Suuuure you did!! It just happened to be there! Ayup! Likely story!
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Tell me LH dear, did DH believe your story??
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By the way, I agree with you 100% about how to keep chickens. What's the point if they can't even be chickens! Taking prudent precautions is, of course, a good idea. But things can be carried to the point of the ridiculous. I'd much rather see my birds out free ranging and enjoying an idyllic life, than to watch them cooped up in a sterile environment, devoid of any of the natural stimulus that makes a chicken's life worth living! I'd also rather see them have a shorter life, knowing that it was a life lived to the absolute fullest, than a hollow and empty existence behind protective walls. Chickens, IMHO, just shouldn't be wrapped up in wool batting.

Sorry if I misunderstood your meaning there Nick. I just know how painful it was for me to hear of everything that sweet Gloria Jean went through with her flock. I guess it still hits a little too close to home.
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