Ok Kathy - your BR's are beautiful well all your birds are - but those light Sussex
- I fear i may be a bit of a Sussex man - wow
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Hey Jessica, I'm not sure at all what went into the creation of your boy. He's definitely a handsome roo. As for having Delaware in him, I think it's on the slimmest of chances, if at all. While I'm no where near an expert on the matter, I'm just not seeing anything remotely indicative of a Del, other than the fact that he has a lot of white in him. But then, so do about a dozen other breeds as well.
Do you feed your boys a lot of corn? Do they spend a great deal of time out in the sun? Either could explain the golden hue of his hackle and saddles. Otherwise, I would think that his natural feather color would be stark white. Also note the complete lack of any yellow present in either legs or beak. True Delawares have very yellow legs and beaks, in both hen and rooster.
I have a pair of half breed Del's. Their father is Kathyinmo's Jacob or Oliver, and her EE mama, Maggie. Actually, all three of them are mine now. Anyway, what I'm trying to get at here is that the two girls, Lisette and Cosette both have the yellow legs and a partially yellow beak. They get the bit of horn color in their beaks from their mother. As you can see from the picture below, it's fairly easy to see that they are half breed "Delaweggers".
But these are first generation cross breeds. If your boy has Delaware in him, it's probably buried so deep in the subsequent cross breedings that you'd never be able to tease out the Delaware genetics in any kind of a breeding program that included him.
In my humble opinion, there's nothing wrong with mutts, what so ever! I know. I have four of them! And I wouldn't trade a single one of my boys for a whole pen full of purebred anything! Nope, I wouldn't trade a single one! I might ADD purebred boys to the line up, but I'd never TRADE one of my boys for a purebred!!
Oh, and here's that picture I promised ya:
Q
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i159/serrin_2006/011-7.jpg
This one shows Lisette's leg color even better.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i159/serrin_2006/010-2.jpg
Both of those pictures were taken back in late October, on the first night after their arrival. Since those were taken, the leg color on both Lisette and Cosette has deepened and become all the more of a brilliant yellow as they mature. Unfortunately you can't see Cosette's beak in either of those pictures. She's the one that has just a little bit of the horn color in her beak that she got from her mother. In comparison with how they look today, I'd say the horn color is gradually receding. She may end up with an all yellow beak yet!
At 8 months of age now on your boy, what you see is pretty much what he's going to be. He will probably fill out a great deal more, but as to feather, leg and beak coloration, I think this is what he'll still look like in another year yet. Such a pretty boy! I sure hope you're going to keep him. He looks like a sweetie!
Dang it! Kathy, tell me one more time when Lisette and Cosette hatched out! I swear I'm going to go back and write it down on my calendar!
I suffer from an incurable case of CRS, I tell ya!
CRS = Can't Remember Stuff
You like mutts? Woohoo! Lookie here! (They get better as you go on
) https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=424959 Happy hatches everyone! I bet we'll see some Xmas chicks!
Hey Jessica, I'm not sure at all what went into the creation of your boy. He's definitely a handsome roo. As for having Delaware in him, I think it's on the slimmest of chances, if at all. While I'm no where near an expert on the matter, I'm just not seeing anything remotely indicative of a Del, other than the fact that he has a lot of white in him. But then, so do about a dozen other breeds as well.
Do you feed your boys a lot of corn? Do they spend a great deal of time out in the sun? Either could explain the golden hue of his hackle and saddles. Otherwise, I would think that his natural feather color would be stark white. Also note the complete lack of any yellow present in either legs or beak. True Delawares have very yellow legs and beaks, in both hen and rooster.
I have a pair of half breed Del's. Their father is Kathyinmo's Jacob or Oliver, and her EE mama, Maggie. Actually, all three of them are mine now. Anyway, what I'm trying to get at here is that the two girls, Lisette and Cosette both have the yellow legs and a partially yellow beak. They get the bit of horn color in their beaks from their mother. As you can see from the picture below, it's fairly easy to see that they are half breed "Delaweggers".
But these are first generation cross breeds. If your boy has Delaware in him, it's probably buried so deep in the subsequent cross breedings that you'd never be able to tease out the Delaware genetics in any kind of a breeding program that included him.
In my humble opinion, there's nothing wrong with mutts, what so ever! I know. I have four of them! And I wouldn't trade a single one of my boys for a whole pen full of purebred anything! Nope, I wouldn't trade a single one! I might ADD purebred boys to the line up, but I'd never TRADE one of my boys for a purebred!!
Oh, and here's that picture I promised ya:
Q
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i159/serrin_2006/011-7.jpg
This one shows Lisette's leg color even better.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i159/serrin_2006/010-2.jpg
Both of those pictures were taken back in late October, on the first night after their arrival. Since those were taken, the leg color on both Lisette and Cosette has deepened and become all the more of a brilliant yellow as they mature. Unfortunately you can't see Cosette's beak in either of those pictures. She's the one that has just a little bit of the horn color in her beak that she got from her mother. In comparison with how they look today, I'd say the horn color is gradually receding. She may end up with an all yellow beak yet!
At 8 months of age now on your boy, what you see is pretty much what he's going to be. He will probably fill out a great deal more, but as to feather, leg and beak coloration, I think this is what he'll still look like in another year yet. Such a pretty boy! I sure hope you're going to keep him. He looks like a sweetie!
Dang it! Kathy, tell me one more time when Lisette and Cosette hatched out! I swear I'm going to go back and write it down on my calendar!
You like mutts? Woohoo! Lookie here! (They get better as you go on
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RATS RATS RATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot come to Cetawin's in May- the girl I work with changed her wedding date by one weekend to accomodate some stupid family member and NOW SHE IS GETTING MARRIED THAT WEEKEND AND I AM DOING THE MUSIC AND HAVE TO BE HERE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot come to Cetawin's in May- the girl I work with changed her wedding date by one weekend to accomodate some stupid family member and NOW SHE IS GETTING MARRIED THAT WEEKEND AND I AM DOING THE MUSIC AND HAVE TO BE HERE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey Jessica, I'm not sure at all what went into the creation of your boy. He's definitely a handsome roo. As for having Delaware in him, I think it's on the slimmest of chances, if at all. While I'm no where near an expert on the matter, I'm just not seeing anything remotely indicative of a Del, other than the fact that he has a lot of white in him. But then, so do about a dozen other breeds as well.
Do you feed your boys a lot of corn? Do they spend a great deal of time out in the sun? Either could explain the golden hue of his hackle and saddles. Otherwise, I would think that his natural feather color would be stark white. Also note the complete lack of any yellow present in either legs or beak. True Delawares have very yellow legs and beaks, in both hen and rooster.
I have a pair of half breed Del's. Their father is Kathyinmo's Jacob or Oliver, and her EE mama, Maggie. Actually, all three of them are mine now. Anyway, what I'm trying to get at here is that the two girls, Lisette and Cosette both have the yellow legs and a partially yellow beak. They get the bit of horn color in their beaks from their mother. As you can see from the picture below, it's fairly easy to see that they are half breed "Delaweggers".
But these are first generation cross breeds. If your boy has Delaware in him, it's probably buried so deep in the subsequent cross breedings that you'd never be able to tease out the Delaware genetics in any kind of a breeding program that included him.
In my humble opinion, there's nothing wrong with mutts, what so ever! I know. I have four of them! And I wouldn't trade a single one of my boys for a whole pen full of purebred anything! Nope, I wouldn't trade a single one! I might ADD purebred boys to the line up, but I'd never TRADE one of my boys for a purebred!!
Oh, and here's that picture I promised ya:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i159/serrin_2006/011-7.jpg
This one shows Lisette's leg color even better.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i159/serrin_2006/010-2.jpg
Both of those pictures were taken back in late October, on the first night after their arrival. Since those were taken, the leg color on both Lisette and Cosette has deepened and become all the more of a brilliant yellow as they mature. Unfortunately you can't see Cosette's beak in either of those pictures. She's the one that has just a little bit of the horn color in her beak that she got from her mother. In comparison with how they look today, I'd say the horn color is gradually receding. She may end up with an all yellow beak yet!
At 8 months of age now on your boy, what you see is pretty much what he's going to be. He will probably fill out a great deal more, but as to feather, leg and beak coloration, I think this is what he'll still look like in another year yet. Such a pretty boy! I sure hope you're going to keep him. He looks like a sweetie!
Dang it! Kathy, tell me one more time when Lisette and Cosette hatched out! I swear I'm going to go back and write it down on my calendar!
I suffer from an incurable case of CRS, I tell ya!
CRS = Can't Remember Stuff
Thank you very much! He does eat quite a lot of corn, as we throw it in there for them about every two or three days, and he is in the sunlight almost all day every day.
Hey Jessica, I'm not sure at all what went into the creation of your boy. He's definitely a handsome roo. As for having Delaware in him, I think it's on the slimmest of chances, if at all. While I'm no where near an expert on the matter, I'm just not seeing anything remotely indicative of a Del, other than the fact that he has a lot of white in him. But then, so do about a dozen other breeds as well.
Do you feed your boys a lot of corn? Do they spend a great deal of time out in the sun? Either could explain the golden hue of his hackle and saddles. Otherwise, I would think that his natural feather color would be stark white. Also note the complete lack of any yellow present in either legs or beak. True Delawares have very yellow legs and beaks, in both hen and rooster.
I have a pair of half breed Del's. Their father is Kathyinmo's Jacob or Oliver, and her EE mama, Maggie. Actually, all three of them are mine now. Anyway, what I'm trying to get at here is that the two girls, Lisette and Cosette both have the yellow legs and a partially yellow beak. They get the bit of horn color in their beaks from their mother. As you can see from the picture below, it's fairly easy to see that they are half breed "Delaweggers".
But these are first generation cross breeds. If your boy has Delaware in him, it's probably buried so deep in the subsequent cross breedings that you'd never be able to tease out the Delaware genetics in any kind of a breeding program that included him.
In my humble opinion, there's nothing wrong with mutts, what so ever! I know. I have four of them! And I wouldn't trade a single one of my boys for a whole pen full of purebred anything! Nope, I wouldn't trade a single one! I might ADD purebred boys to the line up, but I'd never TRADE one of my boys for a purebred!!
Oh, and here's that picture I promised ya:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i159/serrin_2006/011-7.jpg
This one shows Lisette's leg color even better.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i159/serrin_2006/010-2.jpg
Both of those pictures were taken back in late October, on the first night after their arrival. Since those were taken, the leg color on both Lisette and Cosette has deepened and become all the more of a brilliant yellow as they mature. Unfortunately you can't see Cosette's beak in either of those pictures. She's the one that has just a little bit of the horn color in her beak that she got from her mother. In comparison with how they look today, I'd say the horn color is gradually receding. She may end up with an all yellow beak yet!
At 8 months of age now on your boy, what you see is pretty much what he's going to be. He will probably fill out a great deal more, but as to feather, leg and beak coloration, I think this is what he'll still look like in another year yet. Such a pretty boy! I sure hope you're going to keep him. He looks like a sweetie!
Dang it! Kathy, tell me one more time when Lisette and Cosette hatched out! I swear I'm going to go back and write it down on my calendar!
Thank you very much! He does eat quite a lot of corn, as we throw it in there for them about every two or three days, and he is in the sunlight almost all day every day.
BETH! We can't have the party without you! Ladyhawk, can we change the date? We gotta have Beth there!
On another note.... It has been a long night here. It is Christmas season, after all. In our house, each year, for the last several, we go through this..........
Schizophrenia is most often diagnosed between the ages of 18 - 25, quite frequently in young college students so stressed. Many are brilliant, or quite bright. Brock had an IQ test done in high school, and was "near genius level." He was diagnosed just a year or so after graduating high school, "Paranoid type." Brock's is most likely is drug induced, as he dabbled in drugs when a teenager.
Christmas season is the worst for him ..... or should I say, for us. Religious overtones prevail. Often, he claims he is Jesus. Praises to the Lord and many Bible stories ring throughout our house..... DAY AND NIGHT ! Alot of talking to himself, sometimes in the mirror, too. He often feels he is targeted as his delusions surface. These are persecutory in nature ie overpowering, intense feeling that people are talking about him, and watching him. He often looks over his shoulder. The religious delusions and paranoia are his most difficult.
Ruminating thoughts persist, and of course, there are the auditory hallucinations he suffers with.
Having chickens has been helpful with Brock. Doesn't that sound silly? Really though, they have. It has given him focus and meaning. He feels his purpose is to care for them. He talks to them, and of course they talk to him. We had to put a second padlock on one of the doors, recently, because one pen of birds requested tighter security.
Medication is, obviously, the answer. When Brock takes his meds, he usually does well. Problem being, you can not force the meds into his mouth. He, like many with this disease, start feeling better and doing well ..... so they quit taking their meds. Then, it all starts over again. When Brock went to Iowa, it is apparent to us, he quit taking his meds. It will take a while, "to get him back," now.
On top of all this, he has a nasty cold. He believes that is my doing. No convincing him that he just has a cold.
Oh well, enough of this ..........................
On another note.... It has been a long night here. It is Christmas season, after all. In our house, each year, for the last several, we go through this..........
Schizophrenia is most often diagnosed between the ages of 18 - 25, quite frequently in young college students so stressed. Many are brilliant, or quite bright. Brock had an IQ test done in high school, and was "near genius level." He was diagnosed just a year or so after graduating high school, "Paranoid type." Brock's is most likely is drug induced, as he dabbled in drugs when a teenager.
Christmas season is the worst for him ..... or should I say, for us. Religious overtones prevail. Often, he claims he is Jesus. Praises to the Lord and many Bible stories ring throughout our house..... DAY AND NIGHT ! Alot of talking to himself, sometimes in the mirror, too. He often feels he is targeted as his delusions surface. These are persecutory in nature ie overpowering, intense feeling that people are talking about him, and watching him. He often looks over his shoulder. The religious delusions and paranoia are his most difficult.
Ruminating thoughts persist, and of course, there are the auditory hallucinations he suffers with.
Having chickens has been helpful with Brock. Doesn't that sound silly? Really though, they have. It has given him focus and meaning. He feels his purpose is to care for them. He talks to them, and of course they talk to him. We had to put a second padlock on one of the doors, recently, because one pen of birds requested tighter security.
Medication is, obviously, the answer. When Brock takes his meds, he usually does well. Problem being, you can not force the meds into his mouth. He, like many with this disease, start feeling better and doing well ..... so they quit taking their meds. Then, it all starts over again. When Brock went to Iowa, it is apparent to us, he quit taking his meds. It will take a while, "to get him back," now.
On top of all this, he has a nasty cold. He believes that is my doing. No convincing him that he just has a cold.
Oh well, enough of this ..........................
Kathy
That must really be tough - i have a friend whos husband is about the same really - exactly as you describe it - asnd when he feels he is doing better he takes himself off his meds - and sprirals a bit . I tell her that she is either a saint or an idiot to put up with it - but i think it is really hard - thank God you have the love and the patience for him!
That must really be tough - i have a friend whos husband is about the same really - exactly as you describe it - asnd when he feels he is doing better he takes himself off his meds - and sprirals a bit . I tell her that she is either a saint or an idiot to put up with it - but i think it is really hard - thank God you have the love and the patience for him!
Kathy, I know that is hard to deal with. My heart goes out to you and I hope all will improve. We have a friend that has this and he too felt better and quit taking his meds. He had to "go away" for a while because he thought a friend of his was the anti-christ and he swung a shovel at her and well... she did not survive. I am sorry to say this as I don't want to make things worse and scare you but this friend never would have quit taking his meds if he had understood what could happen. He is the nicest guy. My thoughts and prayers will be with you and your family.
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Kathy, Brock is your son, right? I'm real sorry about this. Especially at this time of year. Prayers for you that he will get better and start taking his meds again. And of COURSE chickens are the best med of all! Patience is the key and sounds like you're doing well with him around.
Kathy, Brock is your son, right? I'm real sorry about this. Especially at this time of year. Prayers for you that he will get better and start taking his meds again. And of COURSE chickens are the best med of all! Patience is the key and sounds like you're doing well with him around.
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Nick, you sound so wise to be so young.
On another note, i have a sister that works at an animal rescue in Atlanta.
Nick, you sound so wise to be so young.
On another note, i have a sister that works at an animal rescue in Atlanta.
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Nick, you sound so wise to be so young.
On another note, i have a sister that works at an animal rescue in Atlanta.
Haha. Yep, I can do "fancy mature talk".
Nick, you sound so wise to be so young.
On another note, i have a sister that works at an animal rescue in Atlanta.
Haha. Yep, I can do "fancy mature talk".
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