Sdwd

[halo]

Ah, man, I have to decide which eggs to remove from the collection. My turner holds 42 and I have 45. Decisions, decisions. Guess I could put extras on the side and hand turn until first candling when I'm sure I'll be removing a few. Hmm.

LH, are you sure you want more politicians in the world? I have two June eggs and three Maretta eggs. I really want Maretta's in there after Wynette hatched a couple of blue pea combed chicks from hers-you know how I love my blue chickens! They'll be blue barred if they come out blue, like my Riley.


BTW, there are 5 of Shadow's in there and 13 D'Anvers. I think I need only 3 D'Anver pullets out of them because my main goal are porcelains eventually. Don't want to overcrowd the coop.

Are you kidding me? Have you ever heard of double decker? Im the Queen of Double Decker eggs. Hens do it, why can't we?

 

[Chic-n-farmer]

I give up. Somebody tell me what "SDWD" means. I've tried to figure it out on my own, but I've lived a sheltered life. please... somebody take pity on me...

 

[Serrin]

Quote: Pity? You want pity? From this bunch?!?!?

Bwaaahaaaahaaaahaaaa!!!

Oh that's rich!



OK, OK, I'm a sucker for those who have led sheltered lives......SDWD means...................

Society for Delaware World Domination!

There! Now ya know. Happy now?!?

 

[kathyinmo]

Quote: Last year, in the Easter Hatch, they had a contest for just this! This is the winner.....
Here is a BYC page with the entrants.

 

[speckledhen]

I could do that if I didn't have them in a turner, but I ain't turning almost 50 eggs by hand anyway. Seems that I may have more than 45 because I think a BR will lay today that I didn't expect to and I'm putting every single one of those in that I get today because it's my last chance since Scott took Rex thirteen days ago and fertility won't be around more than a few more days.

I think what I'll do is put the 42 in the turner and hand turn extras on the side till I have to remove a few at first candling-I do have a second hovabator, but I honestly would rather not run both of them. Between selling pairs or trios, what I want to keep, to give to Nick to restart his Delawares and what I'll send to KY with LH, I need to hatch all I can.

 

[halo]

What do you mean, if you didnt have them in a turner. Like this??

 

[kathyinmo]

YES, what halo said!

 

[speckledhen]

Do those turn okay? You guys are nuts, LOL!

 

[kathyinmo]

It will work, Cyn. You don't need to turn them. Alot of people do it.


I found this old publication..... interesting, huh?


From Genetics of the Fowl, F.B. Hutt (1949)

“After single matings that yielded fertile eggs, the average time elapsing before laying of the first fertile eggs was found to be 57.1 hours by Curtis and Lambert and 66 hours by Nicolaides. Fronda’s record of getting a fertile egg in 20 hours stood for 8 years but was finally wrested away from him by Nicolaides, who, in 68 trials, got one fertile egg 19.5 hours after mating. Since the earliest fertile egg obtained by Van Drimmelen (1945) after putting semen directly in the abdominal cavity came through 19 hours later, and since it take 26 minutes for spermatozoa to traverse the oviduct (Mimura, 1939), no one is likely to lower by more than 4 minutes this record for natural matings now held by Nicolaides. More important, perhaps, is the3 fact that fertility for a whole pen of females is likely to be sufficiently established by 6 or 7 days to warrant saving the eggs for hatching. With old males and with young ones not adequately exposed to light [12 hours was defined earlier in the chapter] a longer time may be necessary.

After removal of the male, the average duration of fertility was found to be 10.7 days by Curtis and Lambert, 14.8 days by Nicolaides. The high records here are 29 and 32 days recorded by Nicolaides and Crew, respectively. In practice, poultrymen recognize that, a week after removal of the male, fertility is declining so rapidly that only special circumstances warrant saving eggs longer than 12 or 14 days.

It is important to know how soon after one male is replaced by another the influence of the first will be lost so that all or most of the fertile eggs can be attributed to the second sire. This has a special significance for breeders who are testing two or three consecutive series of cockerels in the same pens in one breeding season, as it is desirable to reduce to a minimum the number of eggs that must be discarded between series because paternity of chicks hatched from them would be in doubt. It was found by Crew (1926) and by Warren and Kilpatrick (1929) that in such cases the influence of the first male is lost in 7 to 10 days and frequently in as little as 3 to 5 days. Furthermore, once the second male’s sperm begin to fertilize eggs of any one hen, few of them, if any, are subsequently fertilized by the first male. However, there is apparently some variation among males in persistence of their spermatozoa in competition with those of a replacing sire. Altogether, it seems clear that 7 to 10 days are ample as an interim when one male replaces another.” [With A.I. the time lost is much less than with pen matings.]

 

[speckledhen]

Very cool article, Kathy. Well, all three BRs are on the nest so looks like I'll have a full dozen eggs from them rather than the ten I was expecting.

Scott took Rex on Jan. 30, so it's been 13 days, within the parameters in that article. I recall when Hawkeye died and eggs were no longer fertile after about two and a half weeks, then about a week later, I collected an egg from my blue Ameraucana hen, Charlotte, that eventually became Panda, sired by Zane, his only chick before he was completely crippled. And I got another egg from Maretta today, too.


Quote: I'd say this qualifies with the BRs.

I'll have to be careful to stack the extras with like sizes since I'll have about 17 bantam eggs in there with the standards. Thanks for the tip! It's worth a shot so I don't have to hand turn anything for 7-10 days, or whenever I candle for the first time. Gosh, I hate candling that many eggs! Usually, I do them in shifts, maybe half one day, then the other half a day or two later.