Self Blue (Lavender) Silkie Thread

[BetsyOK]

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The blue ear color develops as they mature.

 

[Elite Silkies]

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I can almost guarantee you that those 2 breeders will also tell you that those are not Lavender Silkies. Those two Breeders are Bren and Deb. I am far from a PRO and know very little when it comes to Lavender, but I can you that those are NOT lavender's. They will not change colors as they get older. The dark ones will still be dark, because they are splits. The splash/lavender's will still have splashing, if not more than they already do.

They will never even out in color, nor will they all turn Lavender in color. Lavender is Lavender, they are born Lavender, she needs to learn a bit more, in my opinion.

Elite is correct in that the color will not even out. Further, if those are not from the true lavender line on one side, they aren't even lavender splits. They are very nice-looking birds, however. You could establish a very nice splash line with them.

Bren and Deb are the truely knowledgeable lavender breeders. I've been to Bren's several times in the past five years, have seen a large number of her lavender birds in several different generations, and have had lav roos from her and Deb for several years. I now have 7 full lavenders from them, as well as several black/lav splits from them. Their lavs are all evenly colored. Sometimes when the roos mature, there will be a very thin outlining of the hackle feathers in a little darker color, but they are not splashed. Elite and my lavenders are all from Bren and Deb's stock. There are others out there who have true lavenders, but they originated with Bren/Deb's birds.

The black/lav splits are BLACK. Lavender split with something else generally produces a "mutt," and those often mature out as grays (silver partridge). I've some that are fairly nice grays. Some, however, have some sort of buffish brown in them, usually in the primary wing feathers.

I bought a "Lavender" pullet from one of the other breeders, whom I believe to be genuine in his belief his are lavenders. I knew she was a splash (and said I thought so), but she was a nice bird and I'd traveled a ways for her, so I bought her anyway. I'll not use her in my lavender line. His line came from another reputable breeder, who also believes his birds are lavenders. I don't think either of them had/have any intention of misleading anyone, they are just mistaken. I have noticed neither has shown a lavender in the last couple of shows I've attended that they were also involved in.

Hope this helps.

Very well put!

 

[BetsyOK]

If I wasn't clear, my current lavenders and black/lav splits are nearly all directly from Bren and Deb and not from my own lines. If this matters in this discussion.

 

[Elite Silkies]

I was taught by one of the "BEST" a simple rule. KNOW your Breeder! All but one of my Lav's are from Bren and the other one is from Deb. I like it that way. I know what I have, and I don't have any worries.

Except, my little Buff/Lav Showgirl, she is from HappyChick. She is a sweetie. Going to give me those Isabels. I think she has given me one, but I'll have to wait and see.

 

[suebee]

I notice some people take pics of lavs in the sun. Well all my splashes look lavender in the sun...a purple hue washes over them.
Jen, I know your pics are not in the sun, but could you take more pics...especially of the lighter ones?
I'm sure everyone is waiting for Bren and Deb to judge....more pics tomorrow would be helpful.

 

[Gordonhillfarm]

Ok so I have to ask who is the breeder you two bought from ? I'm really sorry this happened to anyone . Doesn't anyone beleive in Karma anymore -- What you put out will come back . Has this person tried at all to make good by either of you ? I'm very new here and can tell you it certainly makes me think . I took a leap and ordered lav. eggs , It's my birthday next month (a treat for me) . Hope I choose well - they are very pricey , not something I would do often . I wanted eggs though not birds and most breeders don't like to sell eggs ( at least not the ones I looked into ) I took my time and looked into several choices , I have no doubt that I made a good choice . But I'm sure there are many that would like to know who you bought from so they don't make the same mistake .

 

[jen5680]

I will try and get some more pictures of the lighter ones tomorrow but have a bunch of running to do so it might be Monday.

I am not going to say the name of this person that we are talking about because I don't think it is right to.
I am not a basher and don't like to talk bad about people. I was shocked to find out all this when I posted these pictures.
Never having Lav chicks b4 I didn't have a clue and I believe that I have everything worked out with her now.
I will be sure and let you all no how that goes.
This could jsut be a big misunderstanding or mix up on her part?????

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Ambient (room) humidity makes a difference. Running 50% incubator humidity with an ambient humidity of 10% would be very different than running an incubator humidity of 50% with an ambient humidity of 75%.

I don't change humidity for hatching as I usually have birds of all stages in the incubator. I aim for about 65% the entire time.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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I have contacted her and asked question's about the stock I bought she kinda avoided my main questions and gave me a line that " the splaah markings are something all breeder have delt with since the begining". Being on this message board I know better.

A lot of lavenders are blue based rather than black. And breeding these together will give splashes. A bird can be splash & lavender (or blue & lavender), and will show traits of BOTH colours. IMO it is difficult to tell a bird who is blue and lavender from one who is merely blue (including both splits and non-lav, since splits do not affect phenotype. Ditto for splash and lavender.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Jen,

I'm sorry but that chick is Blue. It might be split/lavender, but it is not a Lavender bird.

This was sold to me as a lavender!! There is no way that it isn't?????

Way too dark to be lavender.