Self Blue (Lavender) Silkie Thread

[Brody's Broodello]

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The Blue pullet is from that group of chicks. The Chipmunked one on the left.

So April, that one that was a chipmunk or partridge color on the left that feathered out to be blue (beautiful !!) is a split.
What color were the parents????

Yes she was the Blue that my son showed at Lucasville, the one with the big Crest. Also the full sibling to the Blue Cock I brought to the show that was For Sale.

Parents were a Split & Lav.

 

[friedeggs]

you mean fronty chest April? LOL LOL LOL

 

[ChooksChick]

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In general, one shouldn't be able to tell a split at all from a black chick- I breed Lavender and Isabel Orpingtons and work with the Lav gene a lot. I have some Silkie Juvies and am starting in on fun stuff with them now. The reason some have the chipmunk color is that there is a pattern gene hidden in there. If it seems as though the ones that end up carrying the Lavender gene are always chipmunk, then someone has a Lavender bird that is hiding a pattern gene. This can be very useful for identifying the splits who ought to otherwise be indiscernible from the blacks. In Silkies, especially, patterns can be hidden in the texture of the feathers, where in flat feathered birds it might be a pattern that would show up as a fault.

Also- can anyone explain to me how the Buff/Lavender color came to be called Porcelain? In the rest of the world, Porcelain is the color when Lavender dilutes Mille Fleur. Likewise, in the rest of the world, Isabel is the name of the color when one uses Lavender over Buff. Porcelain Silkies don't have the Mottled gene in there at all, right? So it's just different with Silkies?

 

[jen5680]

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Are you the one that had the big chested silkie that we were laughing about????

edited to say not that we were not laughing at how she looked but that the judge doesn't like chesty silkies!! LOL!!

 

[friedeggs]

In general, one shouldn't be able to tell a split at all from a black chick- I breed Lavender and Isabel Orpingtons and work with the Lav gene a lot. I have some Silkie Juvies and am starting in on fun stuff with them now. The reason some have the chipmunk color is that there is a pattern gene hidden in there. If it seems as though the ones that end up carrying the Lavender gene are always chipmunk, then someone has a Lavender bird that is hiding a pattern gene. This can be very useful for identifying the splits who ought to otherwise be indiscernible from the blacks. In Silkies, especially, patterns can be hidden in the texture of the feathers, where in flat feathered birds it might be a pattern that would show up as a fault.

now your talkin! Thank you That pattern gene is a mistake. Oh and flat/hard feathers is does show up in silkies in the hackles, wings tail feathering (if) it does make a debut.
I have been breeding Silkie porcelain/ pastel/ or maybe it should be called self blue apricot and my birds have no patterns in them as chicks, they look like diluted golden lakenvelders at birth. But because its so new every once in a while stripes will surface and they are culled.
In lavender. Ther pattern gene shows in birds that have been bred a while. And I have lavenders and splits from my own at scratch breeding and those guys when hatched wre clear as a bell.
I mena no harm or disrespect in my comments about the pattern gene to people who have lavenders and are getting them. Just keep in mind to continously remove those birds from your breeding flock, eventually down the road things will get better.
Again, no disrespect.​

 

[friedeggs]

Are you the one that had the big chested silkie that we were laughing about????

I had a really nice silkie (from my firend)that the judge wrote chesty front on the card. Everybody couldn't understand why the judge would write that. She is a deep chested girl. Turns out the judge needs to slow his writing down. He said front of crest. But it was as clearly written as I'm writing now fronty chest on her card.
This bird went breed the week before over 18 whites and over a respected Master Silkie breeder. Just funny how she's lack chest for a bird this well put together and bred.​

 

[jen5680]

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I had a really nice silkie (from my firend)that the judge wrote chesty front on the card. Everybody couldn't understand why the judge would write that. She is a deep chested girl. Turns out the judge needs to slow his writing down. He said front of crest. But it was as clearly written as I'm writing now fronty chest on her card.
This bird went breed the week before over 18 whites and over a respected Master Silkie breeder. Just funny how she's lack chest for a bird this well put together and bred.

Ok I met you at the show. i was sitting on the bench with you and your friend that has the beautiful grays that i wanted to see but
she didn't have then with her at the show. I remember laughing about it bc we thought the judge didn't like "chesty" silkies.
I didn't hear this part of it so good to no. LOL!!!

 

[friedeggs]

Also- can anyone explain to me how the Buff/Lavender color came to be called Porcelain? In the rest of the world, Porcelain is the color when Lavender dilutes Mille Fleur. Likewise, in the rest of the world, Isabel is the name of the color when one uses Lavender over Buff. Porcelain Silkies don't have the Mottled gene in there at all, right? So it's just different with Silkies?

Yep it was from and experimental master silkie breeder. And yep they're not real porcelains. But they're not isabel. You are right that is lavender over buff. These if bred and created correctly are more of a double lavender dosed golden lakenvelder. NO pattern genes like self blue.​

 

[friedeggs]

I didn't hear this part of it so good to no. LOL!!!

maybe they (some judges)need label makers. for clarity.
Oh come to the Ohio Nationals. That will blow your mind!!​

 

[jen5680]

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maybe they (some judges)need label makers. for clarity.
Oh come to the Ohio Nationals. That will blow your mind!!

Oh I will be!! I went last year and wouldn't miss it!! Your bringng me some birds to buy right??? LOL!!
Ill take a few of each!! LOL!!