Self Blue (Lavender) Silkie Thread

[brenTx]

Yes those are F1 for Deb and she has really showed fast progress in most all areas. I have a few chicks from another genetic angle and they are showing just about the same progress and problems. LOL

 

[Bat Cave Silkies]

Thanks for the answer Bren~~~every Silkie I have is bearded, including my Lavenders....I was just curious.

 

[jen5680]

PAINTS!!!!! Wowza!!!

 

[friedeggs]

wish breeders would decide to make progress with varieties already in the standard.
Would be nice if there were dedicated breeders out there for varieties like buff, black and gray.
Frankly its sad....

 

[bacres]

I am selling my Splits and Lavenders because I feel I would rather work on my Blacks, Blues, and Splash.

 

[debstein]

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I'm confused by this.....there are outstanding black silkies, as a matter of fact, the BB and Res CH FL at the APA National in Shawnee was a black silkie hen, and she was beat only by the cochin who won the entire show! Blacks equal whites as far as quality is concerned. Buff is always going to be a challenge, because in order to get the color, you have to deal with some blk in the tail. I worked on buff for several years, until I decided that the number of culls for color was way too high - in other words, I believe buff is for masochists! But there are many breeders out there working on buffs, and there were also some excellent buff pullets at Shawnee.

As for grey, until a group of grey silkie breeders get together and work on the grey standard and determine what is genetically POSSIBLE, what they want the standard to say, and how they really want the birds to appear, and until we then get a revision of the standard to be something that is possible and appealing to breeders, I seriously doubt that you will see many people working on grey. After all, who wants to beat their head against a wall trying to chase something that can't be created? If someone is ready to step up to the plate and work on the actual color standard for grey, and get a group of like-minded breeders together to revise the standard, I'll back you all the way and do everything I can to help, but I'm not interested in trying to breed a color that cannot meet the standard. Sigrid has talked to several grey breeders and she insists that you can't produce grey silkies that meet every aspect of the color standard. I don't know who wrote it, or when it was written.

Off my soapbox, I just think that there are many breeders out there working on the official varieties, and out of those who are trying to create new things, very few will hang with the pursuit long enough to work out the genetics, show the birds for the required 5 years, and then go through the myriad of paperwork and red tape that is necessary in order to get a new variety approved. But folks - we DID it with the lavenders and they should be accepted and approved by both organizations by early 2011!


Deb Steinberg

 

[Three Cedars Silkies]

Great post, Deb. So true...

 

[rilly10]

I am really trying to focus on my Blacks this year. I want them to be BLACK with the beetle green sheen! Other than Lavender black is my big priority for 2011.

PS- Judy I am on the lookout for one of your Black only egg auctions!

I love a good black silkie!

 

[friedeggs]

I'm confused by this.....there are outstanding black silkies, as a matter of fact, the BB and Res CH FL at the APA National in Shawnee was a black silkie hen,

And thats fanastic. It is! But when you go to shows w/i a district and you have judges remarking poorly on them what does that say?
Were the birds @ Shawnee from all over or center around one area like the ON's?

Blacks equal whites as far as quality is concerned.

I'm not seeing this when you look through rows of birds in a show hall.

Buff is always going to be a challenge, because in order to get the color, you have to deal with some blk in the tail. I worked on buff for several years, until I decided that the number of culls for color was way too high - in other words, I believe buff is for masochists!

Then why is it in the standard, if breeders cannot get the variety right? Might want to lump gray in there too. No one can find the original breeders and they had to have passed/ w/o problems on their variety?

But there are many breeders out there working on buffs, and there were also some excellent buff pullets at Shawnee.

Thats fantastic news

As for grey, until a group of grey silkie breeders get together and work on the grey standard and determine what is genetically POSSIBLE,

How'd the variety pass if things are not genetically possible?

Sigrid has talked to several grey breeders and she insists that you can't produce grey silkies that meet every aspect of the color standard.

LOL, boy I'd like to know who they are. Because I know of only one who has put many many years in on them and has gotten results.

I don't know who wrote it, or when it was written. I doubt that there was a qualifying meet for greys, it was probably one of the "back door" additions to the breed standard that took place when things were rather loosey goosey with the parent organizations.

and thats a shame

These are my opinios and Im just speaking objectively and mean no disrespect....​

 

[LilPeeps]

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And thats fanastic. It is! But when you go to shows w/i a district and you have judges remarking poorly on them what does that say?
Were the birds @ Shawnee from all over or center around one area like the ON's?

There were silkie breeders from all over the country that were showing at Ohio, as well as at Shawnee.

Blacks equal whites as far as quality is concerned.

I'm not seeing this when you look through rows of birds in a show hall.​

Where are you from, around here it's not uncommon for the blacks to rival the whites.

Buff is always going to be a challenge, because in order to get the color, you have to deal with some blk in the tail. I worked on buff for several years, until I decided that the number of culls for color was way too high - in other words, I believe buff is for masochists!

Then why is it in the standard, if breeders cannot get the variety right? Might want to lump gray in there too. No one can find the original breeders and they had to have passed/ w/o problems on their variety?​

It's not that breeders can't get it right, it's just a more difficult variety to perfect, with more culls than what's seen in many other varieties.​