Thanks for that break down on cost. Thanks soo much. As a young kid in the mountians, i learned how to survive, USAF desert survival and snow camp. I have taught my kids how to survive also, my son lived in Kodiak alaska for 5 months on a fish camp, Getting by on a little and making the best out of your circumstances is the only way to prepare. I agree, since Howard RUFF was warning us in the 70's about the comming prosperity and then the massive decline. We have to prepare. Each one of us has different situations, Some have land, some dont, some have more money than others, etc....
So the idea of being self sufficeint we look at that as a ISLAND. your 50 acre farm might just become a island for some of your Friends... everyuone bringin in thier particular talents to assist when times are tight. Networking to survive....its important. storing enough food and supplies is paramount.
We had a earthquake (well several monthly, but the loma prieta earthquake of 89,) electircty was out for along time, no fuel was being pumped, and people were testy......stores empty, It only takes a small disaster to strain our resources so for a family not to have prepared in advance is a shame. Bleach, plastic bags, food, storage, extra water..... medicines.......contact wearers get yer goodies.....oh the list goees on and on.....dont forget the AMMO.......those that dont have will be after those that DO.
Now this isnt to say that the goodness of mans wicked hearts wont prevail, but I have witnessed evil in third world countries when ppl get hungry. When you have clean water and food, the masses will come to take and pilage......its a evil nature of man to do so.
Self Sufficiency is great, best to be prepared then not.
This BYC forum is great
Best to you all,
Jack