September Hatch-A-Long!

GAH!! What the heck??? knew someone just died in there when my temp suddenly dropped down to 99 :hit It was more than just one someone... :he 3 Partridge penedesencas dead in the shell at hatch. I snatched the ones that hadn't pipped out one at a time and candled them. No internal pip, no movement and they felt "cold" the way dead eggs feel. Poked a peek hole and confirmed they were dead. AGAIN with the horribly malpositioned chicks???!!! One with head down between thighs into the small end, one with both feet all the way over its head, and one that obviously stopped growing about day 10ish but it was so dark I couldn't tell. The other three had internally pipped or were trying to and I just made them a breathing hole so that at least if they were stuck they could keep breathing to absorb yolk and blood till they were ready to get out. At least one looks to be badly malpositioned too and I will be surprised if it makes it. It was trying to pip out the side and I actually had clear its beak for it but it was like it was already in the process of dying. It also had some blood near its beak so I think it pipped a vein when it tried to pip out the side. But I don't think it looked like a lot of blood - just afraid since its by the mouth it might be enough to suffocate it. And it doesn't want to keep its beak at the necessary angle to keep it cleared. I think its almost in there sideways. So I have those 3 (probably only 2 really) Partridge Penedesencas, 1 Crested Cream Legbar, 2 Blue/Black/Splash Ameraucana, 2 homegrown Olive Eggers, and 1 homegrown SBEL that are pipped and currently alive. Dead are 3 partridge penedesencas, 1 Splash Ameraucana, and one SBEL.

So I originally had 12 hand delivered eggs from a local breeder - only 6 are still alive. I had 4 of my own, and 3 are still alive. Its so frustrating seeing so many lives lost :th
 
Thanks guys. The funny part is that my bantam Cochin eggs are from TX! I'm in DE so I knew that they were coming a good distance and I knew the chances. Doesn't make it any less disappointing though. I used to breed bearded dragons and I never lost a fertile egg out of all of my clutches, so I figured I at least had enough incubator experience and enough know how to pull off at least 50% on everything, and with all 13 Cochins doing great I am still doing good, I just really wanted those silkies lol. East Coast Silkies and Sleepy Hollow are about the closest really good silkie breeders and Sleepy Hollow doesn't have porcelains right now and East Coast is a bit out of my league at $30 per newly hatched chick or $100 for a dozen shipped eggs. If I spent $100 and non hatched I'm sure my hubby wouldn't be too thrilled with me, and if I spent $300 on straight run day old chicks, I'm pretty sure he would flip lol. Especially since I technically can't have Roos and so I probably couldn't breed them unless I found a quiet Roo out if my batch. Otherwise my chickens are justice my enjoyment in the backyard and for the kids to enter into the state fair next summer. It's all good though. As for opening them, I had scrambled yokes and blood rings and could tell, they were kind of funky smelling too, so I was fairly certain the were goners. I have high hopes for my bantam Cochins though and that's cool. Plus I am working in trying to find some more porcelains, just not ones that need to be shipped. It may just take awhile. I love you guys for sharing and being supportive though. Thank You :)
 
i now have 2 babies ( 1 yolk out- one sleeping... not doing much) and 2 eggs with holes... 5 left just waiting
 
Hey guys-- 
I originally posted this on my NC thread where I usually am, but no one seems to be up so re-posting here for all you experienced hatchers!!!

[COLOR=333333]I went into lockdown yesterday morning.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]I had an Isbar rocking all day and did a pip this afternoon.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]I could hear it chirping for awhile too.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]For the past about 6 hours it's not moving at all, no noise, no more pipping.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]Do I open it and try to do something???[/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]I don't know what could be going wrong, but I feel like it should be out by now.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=333333]I have 2 other marans that started pipping around dinner time.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]I'm laying in bed and I start hearing a loud chirping from down stairs (the incubator is in my dining room table a floor down on the opposite side).  I go to look and another marans that wasn't even pipped when I looked a couple hours ago is out and very loud.  It is running all over the incubator jumping on eggs, knocking them in to each other.  I had them in an egg turner and at lock down took them all out and strategically laid them all on their sides against the side of the bator at a 30 degree angle.  Can this crazy chick crashing them around cause damage by them rolling around when they're supposed to be in lockdown???[/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]This has never happened to me before.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=333333]THANKS![/COLOR]


Leave the pipper be. After they pip, they rest. This is a much needed rest, because this is usually when they finish absorbing the blood vessels and yolk. If you rush them out, they could come out still attached and possibly die. I've heard they can go up to 36 hours before popping out after pipping.
And you can take the chick playing bowling out if you feel it's necessary, but the other eggs should be fine getting jostled around like bowling pins. It may even "wake them up"..let them know it's hatch time.
 
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Leave the pipper be. After they pip, they rest. This is a much needed rest, because this is usually when they finish absorbing the blood vessels and yolk. If you rush them out, they could come out still attached and possibly die. I've heard they can go up to 36 hours before popping out after pipping.
And you can take the chick playing bowling out if you feel it's necessary, but the other eggs should be fine getting jostled around like bowling pins. It may even "wake them up"..let them know it's hatch time.
LOL! I had one I had to take out before because the darn thing kept using the other eggs as a heating pad - no problem except she kept trying to lay on top of the pip holes so the chicks couldn't breathe :/ Out she went, and she was fine :)
 
Okay, thanks for the tip!

This morning this one's still the only one out.
I have 3 others pipped, but they didn't make any progress over night still just sitting there.
I'm getting worried that I'm not seeing much action from all the other eggs!!!
 
Some pics of my malpositioned chicks waiting while they absorb everything.

This one is one of my olive eggers (Mommy was a Blue Marans and hopefully her daddy is the Ameraucana - if not its the Cuckoo Marans). As you can see her foot is straight above her head and she is wedged in good and tight. She still has absorbing to do so I am not letting her out.

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This was another olive egger with the same mommy and I am pretty sure her daddy was the lavender ameraucana since she appears to already have a beard but we'll see better when she is dry. She was all done absorbing so I freed the top membrane and the shell behind her back which was at the top of the egg and prevented her from turning. Once I did that I set he back in the hatcher and she was able to push her way out. All yolk was absorbed. He naval bled a tiny bit when she puller the shell of so I put some antibiotic ointment on it and it seems fine now.
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Here are my 5 waiting chicks. clockwise from the white egg is my SBEL (They call a cross between a White Leghorn and an Ameraucana a "Super Blue Egg Layer") She also has her entire back in the top of the egg. She is almost done absorbing her blood but I don't know about the yolk. Better safe than sorry so I am leaving her in to cook some more in spite of her chirping insistence that she wants out. Today is only day 21 so all of them should be fine for some time.

Next is the Olive Egger from the 1st picture. Still has plenty of absorbing to do - again you can see her foot across her face.

Then are the 3 Partridge Penedesenca. They are all virtually upside down - almost sideways - with their backs in the tops, butts by their heads and wings seem to be under them. The last one was the one that was trying to pip out the side of the egg and hit a vein but couldn't get its beak clear. Its still hanging in there. But the hatched chicks were tearing up its membrane so I got them out and into the brooder. Now they all just need to rest and absorb some more without being used as soccer balls.
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