Serama colors

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They look nothing OEGB. I've never seen an OEGB with vertical tail and wings.

I would his tail more of a 45 degree angle. Look at those long legs.

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He is mixed.

If he is mixed then they are probably all mixed. Serama are not supposed to have short legs and they are supposed to have vertical wings, which he does. His tail does not look 45 degrees, it looks 'right' with a very long back in front of it.
 
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They look nothing OEGB. I've never seen an OEGB with vertical tail and wings.

I have seen a fair number of oegb that look much more serama-ish than these, but these are the only two I have pics of at the moment. The cock bird normally had his tail higher, had vertical wings, and weighed 13 ounces at a year old. The hen would actually hold her tail beyond vertical when strutting.

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What leg length are seramas supposed to have? And are you going by american or malaysian type? I admit to not knowing a lot about serama, but I was under the understanding short legs ARE desirable with serama.
 
I would suggest you wait and see how they develop. I believe many serama have had old english bred into them in the past, to introduce color patterns, or increase numbers for financial gain, but for whatever reason, so you can and will hatch some out with more oegb type than they should have. He could very well be serama, but traits can show up from many generations back. And he could finish out as a nice bird. Just a waiting game.
 
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Low to vertical wings is a common problem with oegb cockbirds, and has been for several years, especially in hen line males. You take a strong hen line male, they often have high set tails, instead of the 45 degree angle they are supposed to have, you will see 50 degree and higher in some hen line cockbirds. They are worth less for show birds, but you will see them throw some real nice pullets. Plus, your hen line males are going to be a smaller bird, but bigger breasted, with shorter leg and shorter back as well, to throw the bigger breasted, nice small typey hens. Take a cockbird from a henline that has been bred heavily for several generations for this type, and it would be very easy to introduce into seramas without having serious type issues.
 
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Could you take a look at the mottled pullet I posted on the 1st page an give me your opinion on her also?

I would call her a serama without any serious reservations. Except for from hatcheries, there are no buff mottled oegb. And it is not a recognized variety with oegb.
 
he's 100% serama... beak, head shape, legs, wing carriage, also a crelle OEGB won't have so many incomplete genes at once... he's incomplete mottled and for some reason, his neck color doesn't go all the way to his eyes... that's very serama-ish...

just because his tail doesn't touch the top of his head doesn't make him another breed... two incredibly typey seramas aren't going to give you 100% incredibly typey offspring...
 
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