Serama eggs would I be insane?

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Hello! This is my first post to BYC , though I have been lurking for a couple of weeks! I am learning alot, and have yet to set up my profile (later today) I haven't had chickens since I was a kid so I am considering myself a newbie. I do have alot experience with reptiles and marine aquariums so I am used to fiddly/techno stuff--plus I have asked for a hoverbator for mothers day! javascript:insert_text('
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',%20''); I have been totally besotted with seramas. Would I be completely insane to take this on as a new project? javascript:insert_text('
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',%20''); I can have a few chickens, but not alot, and should I be successful in hatching a few--I want to keep what i hatch! I am now reading all the old posts I can find about incubation and seramas and incubating seramas. Any word of wisdom? Thanks alot.
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In my experience, serama are very hard to hatch. The best hatches you can get from them are when the hen herself hatches them. As far as the bird it'self, you couldn't ask for anything sweeter! I have a trio and I wouldn't part with them for anything, nothing, nada! Not even a horse and I do love horses.....
Of course these are just pet chickens. The eggs are so small that it would take at least 4 of them to equal a regular egg for eating. Also, I have had bad, bad experiences with shipped eggs for serama. It's hard enough to hatch them, but shipping causes another problem in and of itself.

Good luck! If you're looking for a sweetie pie bird that you want to cuddle and snorgle, then the serama it is.
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You're going to love it here!

Seramas are small. An insulated rabbit hutch is all you'll need and after Easter, they are all over craigslist.
If you have cold winters, a heat lamp at night and you're set!
Maybe buy a set or trio of started birds....

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I agree. I have had Seramas and shipped eggs are very difficult to hatch. Although I have purchased eggs locally and had no problem with them hatching. I would try to find either an adult pair and let them set on their own eggs to increase your flock or get eggs that can be picked up without being shipped. My Serama eggs were the same size as my bantam frizzled Cochin eggs.
 
I will share with you my decision. I also have a lot of experience with breeding and rearing lots of different animals. I have tons of experience with Aquariums and breeding fish including egg layers. Even with that an incubator is quite a bit different. You will just have to set one up and run it for a while to get a "Feel" for it but air is not as easy to control as water and such.
If all you have done is homework, it can leave you with a little bit of a warped since of what you actually need to accomplish. I have settled on a temp that is between 99.5 and 102 ass far as a full 24 hour swing but stays pretty steady between 99.5 and 100.2 degrees. I also chose a humidity in the high 40s to low 50s for the first 18 days and will bump it up to around 55 for lock down.
Your research will find numbers all over the place as far as humidity and I don't think it is all that important until the hatch anyway. no way you can hove one person get a successful hatch with 30% humidity and the next has 65% and it matters all that much in the first place.
As for Seramas specifically. I also chose Seramas for my fist hatching attempt. I bought eggs and teh first 14 eggs came in so damaged that the seller replaced them for free. Out of the first 14 eggs only 2 have made it to day 11. of the second 14 only 13 made it to the incubator and those 13 are now at day 6. I will candle them tomorrow but my gut tells me to expect slightly better numbers that batch 1. maybe 5 eggs will remain in batch 2 after tomorrow. The message in that story? Serama eggs are extremely fragile and do not mail well at all. they also have a horrid fertility rate and even the fertile ones are hard to get to develop completely. They also tend to die during hatch. The way I have it in my mind is that only healthy chicks can hatch successfully and Seramas have been breed far from their original form. these changes have taken there toll on the chicks ability to successfully hatch. I woudl strongly suggest looking for a pair or trio of adult known to be fertile birds and then incubate those eggs. But that is also the advice I would follow if I could. Do your best to get eggs that are close, picking them up woudl be best. Then pay very detailed attention to the incubation. At least that is what I am doing. feel free to contact me for updates as to how well that plan is working. So far it is 12 of 28 eggs have failed after 11 days. I expected at the very best to get 50% hatch. I woudl now consider a 25% hatch to be a big success.
SO are you crazy? probably, but it is so much fun.
 
I don't think you're crazy - just go into it with the understanding that your hatch percentage may be very low.

I hatched my first seramas about a month ago. This was my second hatch in my Brinsea eco 20. I raised the temperature to about 100.5 and kept my humidity a little higher than normal (for me) at around 45%. I followed the breeder's advise and incubated them on their sides. The breeder also recommended not using an auto-turner but I didn't follow that advise. My schedule wasn't consistent enough to be able to turn by hand on a regular basis. I had read that they usually hatch early so I was a bit stressed out when they didn't start pipping until day 20.

Of the 12 shipped, 4 hatched. Two had broken air sacks so I wasn't expecting them to develop. Four where clear at day 16 so I went into lockdown with 6. I had to help one that had pipped on the opposite side of the air sack.

I got my eggs from Picture Perfect Poultry - etrulah on ebay. They where packed very well and Darlene provides great customer service.

Good luck and have fun!

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wowee! thanks for all the great and quick responses! I'll keep reading and researching. I would expect a low hatch rate from all I've read! And I'll be checking craigs list after easter for chicks. Or maybe I'll just take the bull by the horn and get a pair or trio..........
Thanks so much have a great Tuesday! Keds
 
I had serama eggs shipped to me from in state last year (so shipped...but not cross country or anything)....I had about 45% hatch rate and I wasn't great about turning the eggs.
 
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Any shipped hatching eggs are a gamble, so I guess we are ALL crazy.
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Keep researching and if this is the breed you want, go for it.
 

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