Serama roo with laryngitis???

[Crax]

I have poor little serama roo on my hands with what sounds like laryngitis.. when he breathes there’s a raspiness in his throat almost like he’s got a frog stuck in his throat... yesterday he crowed a bit and oh my it sounded terrible!! we’ve been giving him 1/4 of a cc of tylan50 this will be his second day on it... I swabbed his throat to see if he had gapeworm with no result, so I concluded it has to be something else right..?
im just worried that if it gets worse he might die... and here in our family we love him very very much.. I hope we don’t need to take him to the vet but if we do... when should we take action and take him?
Is there anything else I can try as well? I’ve been giving him some vetrx too to see if it’ll help I know it just takes time but I do worry with how he sounds...

any idea what he might or sounds like he might have?

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I have poor little serama roo on my hands with what sounds like laryngitis.. when he breathes there’s a raspiness in his throat almost like he’s got a frog stuck in his throat... yesterday he crowed a bit and oh my it sounded terrible!! we’ve been giving him 1/4 of a cc of tylan50 this will be his second day on it... I swabbed his throat to see if he had gapeworm with no result, so I concluded it has to be something else right..?
im just worried that if it gets worse he might die... and here in our family we love him very very much.. I hope we don’t need to take him to the vet but if we do... when should we take action and take him?
Is there anything else I can try as well? I’ve been giving him some vetrx too to see if it’ll help I know it just takes time but I do worry with how he sounds...

any idea what he might or sounds like he might have?

Can you get a video of what he sounds like? Upload to youtube and provide a link.

Does he have any mucous, coughing, sneezing, watery eyes, facial swelling, etc.?
How old is he?
Where is he kept, does he have adequate ventilation?

How much does he weigh? Injectable Tylan50 dose is 0.25ml per pound of weight given orally 3 times a day for 5 days. So check to make sure you are giving him the correct dosing.
Tylan50 is good for treating symptoms of disease like Mycoplasma.

Is his crop emptying overnight?
Any lesions or canker inside his beak?

 

[Crax]

Can you get a video of what he sounds like? Upload to youtube and provide a link.

Does he have any mucous, coughing, sneezing, watery eyes, facial swelling, etc.?
How old is he?
Where is he kept, does he have adequate ventilation?

How much does he weigh? Injectable Tylan50 dose is 0.25ml per pound of weight given orally 3 times a day for 5 days. So check to make sure you are giving him the correct dosing.
Tylan50 is good for treating symptoms of disease like Mycoplasma.

Is his crop emptying overnight?
Any lesions or canker inside his beak?

At the moment I can’t get a video since it’s bedtime for both me and him but when I can I will..
As for the mucus coughing and sneezing he has none same for watery eyes and swelling
As for age I’d say about a year old
And where he’s kept is a spacious coop (very clean I might add) and pretty ventilated
As for weight we don’t know... his crop is emptying and has no leisons or canker

 

[Myrshine]

Well if it is Infectious Laryngotracheitis (ILT), it is incurable, chronic, birds are carriers for life, untreatable and the disease is reportable (if you’re in the USA) by federal law. Best course of action is to cull and send the body off for a necropsy, it’s hard, but it’s better than risking your entire flock. ILT isn’t a disease to mess with, it has a high mortality rate and birds suffer.

You can try treating with antibiotics, but if the antibiotics aren’t working, I suggest culling and getting the body tested from a necropsy. Other common causes of the symptoms you’re mentioning, could be from Mycoplasma Gallisepticum (MG).
Chronic Respiratory Disease (CRD), or most commonly known as Mycoplasma Gallisepticum (MG). MG is a bacterial infection of poultry, affecting all different species of birds. This disease is most commonly given from infected parents to the offspring, as the MG bacteria can be transmitted vertically into the eggs of developing embryos, making any chicks that hatch, always infected and sick with the bacteria. So please please PLEASE don’t breed from your sickly infected flock! MG is a permanent lifelong chronic disease- meaning, that you can treat or have the symptoms go away, but whenever the bird gets stressed again, the symptoms will keep coming back or get worse. All birds (even recovered birds) remain lifetime long carriers of the MG bacteria, spreading and shedding it through their feces, feathers, dander, respiratory secretions and other bodily fluids. This is a lifetime disease of poultry and is incurable. Since MG is a bacteria, antibiotics can help keep symptoms at bay until the symptoms resurface. That being said, most choose to cull all birds and start over fresh. If you’d rather not, then the other option is to keep a closed flock- no new birds in and no birds leave your sick flock.



Keep in mind that over-use and/or misuse of antibiotics also creates antibiotic-resistant bacteria, making the disease harder to treat than before. It’s critical in any livestock, especially poultry, to get any sick or symptomatic birds tested to find out which specific disease they have as soon as possible.

Here's more information about MG:

https://extension.umd.edu/sites/ext... Mycoplasma gallisepticum (MG) Infecti....pdf

https://www.freedomrangerhatchery.com/blog/protecting-your-flock-what-you-need-to-know-about-mg-ms/

https://afarmgirlinthemaking.com/respiratory-conditions-poultry-mycoplasma-in-chickens/

https://www.maine.gov/dacf/ahw/animal_health/documents/backyardpoultry/Mycoplasma Factsheet.pdf

I hope this helps!

 

[ThatTeowonna]

Well if it is Infectious Laryngotracheitis (ILT), it is incurable, chronic, birds are carriers for life, untreatable and the disease is reportable (if you’re in the USA) by federal law. Best course of action is to cull and send the body off for a necropsy, it’s hard, but it’s better than risking your entire flock. ILT isn’t a disease to mess with, it has a high mortality rate and birds suffer.

You can try treating with antibiotics, but if the antibiotics aren’t working, I suggest culling and getting the body tested from a necropsy. Other common causes of the symptoms you’re mentioning, could be from Mycoplasma Gallisepticum (MG).
Chronic Respiratory Disease (CRD), or most commonly known as Mycoplasma Gallisepticum (MG). MG is a bacterial infection of poultry, affecting all different species of birds. This disease is most commonly given from infected parents to the offspring, as the MG bacteria can be transmitted vertically into the eggs of developing embryos, making any chicks that hatch, always infected and sick with the bacteria. So please please PLEASE don’t breed from your sickly infected flock! MG is a permanent lifelong chronic disease- meaning, that you can treat or have the symptoms go away, but whenever the bird gets stressed again, the symptoms will keep coming back or get worse. All birds (even recovered birds) remain lifetime long carriers of the MG bacteria, spreading and shedding it through their feces, feathers, dander, respiratory secretions and other bodily fluids. This is a lifetime disease of poultry and is incurable. Since MG is a bacteria, antibiotics can help keep symptoms at bay until the symptoms resurface. That being said, most choose to cull all birds and start over fresh. If you’d rather not, then the other option is to keep a closed flock- no new birds in and no birds leave your sick flock.



Keep in mind that over-use and/or misuse of antibiotics also creates antibiotic-resistant bacteria, making the disease harder to treat than before. It’s critical in any livestock, especially poultry, to get any sick or symptomatic birds tested to find out which specific disease they have as soon as possible.

Here's more information about MG:

https://extension.umd.edu/sites/extension.umd.edu/files/_docs/programs/poultry/FS-1008 Recognizing and Preventing Mycoplasma gallisepticum (MG) Infecti....pdf

https://www.freedomrangerhatchery.com/blog/protecting-your-flock-what-you-need-to-know-about-mg-ms/

https://afarmgirlinthemaking.com/respiratory-conditions-poultry-mycoplasma-in-chickens/

https://www.maine.gov/dacf/ahw/animal_health/documents/backyardpoultry/Mycoplasma Factsheet.pdf

I hope this helps!

Ditto... especially about LT.

 

[dawg53]

@Crax I dont believe you're dealing with any type of respiratory disease with your Serama rooster. The respiratory disease symptoms are NOT there, including MG and ILT as others have mentioned, and certainly NOT gapeworms.

It's possible while eating he may have had feed granules go down his trachea causing mucus buildup, thus the gurgling. There's nothing you can do about it.

Personally, I have 2 roosters that gurgle, like a frog in their throat. One of them at the end of the crow, and the other one all the way through the crow. It sounds different and funny compared to my third rooster's normal crow.
All three roosters have their hens with them and I guarantee you that my birds do NOT have any type respiratory disease(s).

 

[Crax]

@Crax I dont believe you're dealing with any type of respiratory disease with your Serama rooster. The respiratory disease symptoms are NOT there, including MG and ILT as others have mentioned, and certainly NOT gapeworms.

It's possible while eating he may have had feed granules go down his trachea causing mucus buildup, thus the gurgling. There's nothing you can do about it.

Personally, I have 2 roosters that gurgle, like a frog in their throat. One of them at the end of the crow, and the other one all the way through the crow. It sounds different and funny compared to my third rooster's normal crow.
All three roosters have their hens with them and I guarantee you that my birds do NOT have any type respiratory disease(s).

So... he may just be like that forever if that’s the case? (Me personally I think he DOES have a frog in his throat) all jokes aside is there anyway to dislodge the granules?

 

[dawg53]

If feed granules are the case, they'll have to work their way out or dissolve somehow on their own. How long has he been doing this?

 

[Crax]

If feed granules are the case, they'll have to work their way out or dissolve somehow on their own. How long has he been doing this?

Only for a few days he’s been doing this but today he sounds much better! He’s been crowing alot this morning and it sounds better than before his crow is usually high pitch but this one sounds the exact same but a lower pitch meanwhile before it sounded bad... so whatever is the case he DOES sound like he’s getting better and he’s eating and drinking as normal so I do think what you said might’ve been the case...

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Only for a few days he’s been doing this but today he sounds much better! He’s been crowing alot this morning and it sounds better than before his crow is usually high pitch but this one sounds the exact same but a lower pitch meanwhile before it sounded bad... so whatever is the case he DOES sound like he’s getting better and he’s eating and drinking as normal so I do think what you said might’ve been the case...

Glad that he sounds better today. I would still make sure his crop is emptying overnight.