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[WVduckchick]

TY, proof that some theories aren't based in any kind of fact, is what I say. I just keep hoping that accumulating data will eventually lead to some sort of truth, some truth better than "absolutely"

I'm with you there.

 

[NTBugtraq]

I just read an article about weighing eggs. The person took the whole tray out of the Brinsea and weighed it with all the eggs on day 7/14/18 and used those numbers for calculating the weight loss, not individual eggs - since eggs, even from the same hen, are all slightly different.

Where did you read to incubate lower days 1-18, raise the temp day 19-20 and then drop the temperature 11 degrees on day 21? I'd like to look at that article.

Common Incubation Problems: Causes and Remedies - a PDF from the University of California.

FWIW, the temperatures were discussed when I first mentioned the parameters of this setting. The convo starts at this link.

 

[FridayYet]

Thanks. The UC Davis paper confirms what I've read about using 99.5 for incubating temperature. I'll keep looking for information showing the benefits of deviating from that temperature.

I won't be hatching for a while, so I have plenty of time to research.

 

[scflock]

TY, proof that some theories aren't based in any kind of fact, is what I say. I just keep hoping that accumulating data will eventually lead to some sort of truth, some truth better than "absolutely"

Any better action overnight? I'm really not trying to argue with you. I honestly want to know why you change so many variables at one time. Does it not make it harder to accumulate data when temp changes, humidity changes, offset egg times, etc... are all introduced in the same batch of eggs?

 

[WalnutHill]

One of the most interesting observations in the UC Davis text is "Power failure: If power fails, open machine until power is restored."

There is also a confirmation that old eggs should be set earlier. But they put a 7 day cap on chicken eggs, 14 day on turkey eggs. I've hatched them both a week older than recommended, but I would not do that if not necessary.

 

[WVduckchick]

One of the most interesting observations in the UC Davis text is "Power failure:  If power fails, open machine until power is restored."

There is also a confirmation that old eggs should be set earlier.  But they put a 7 day cap on chicken eggs, 14 day on turkey eggs.  I've hatched them both a week older than recommended, but I would not do that if not necessary.

I noticed that too, and had read similar somewhere else. Might as well cool them all the way down, rather than trying to keep them warm-ish! I think that's why some of my ducks survived. They dropped to like 65 the night I was without power... While I was crying over it.

 

[NTBugtraq]

Any better action overnight? I'm really not trying to argue with you. I honestly want to know why you change so many variables at one time. Does it not make it harder to accumulate data when temp changes, humidity changes, offset egg times, etc... are all introduced in the same batch of eggs?

7 more hatched overnight, and 7 more again during the day so far. So I'm up to 22.

An interesting side-note, the Janoel 8-48 automatically, and completely by itself, dropped the temperature to 32.2C when it saw day 22 had arrived. I never read that in the Janoel manual. I tried to over-ride it but it won't have it...its staying at 32.2C.

The chicks in the brooder are eating, but I haven't seen them drink yet. I put electrolytes into the water container to be sure this time.

 

[scflock]

7 more hatched overnight, and 7 more again during the day so far. So I'm up to 22.

An interesting side-note, the Janoel 8-48 automatically, and completely by itself, dropped the temperature to 32.2C when it saw day 22 had arrived. I never read that in the Janoel manual. I tried to over-ride it but it won't have it...its staying at 32.2C.

The chicks in the brooder are eating, but I haven't seen them drink yet. I put electrolytes into the water container to be sure this time.

I didn't keep up with how many made it to lockdown, so you're now at 22 for how many? Is that just the Brinsea, or between them both? This is your best hatch yet, isn't it?

If the Janoel dropping temp is a feature of the bator, that's a scary feature. Could you unplug it to reset the day counter? I've never seen one of those, so I have no idea.

Do you dip a few of the chicks beaks in water? Once a few learn to drink, the rest will follow

 

[NTBugtraq]

I didn't keep up with how many made it to lockdown, so you're now at 22 for how many? Is that just the Brinsea, or between them both? This is your best hatch yet, isn't it?

If the Janoel dropping temp is a feature of the bator, that's a scary feature. Could you unplug it to reset the day counter? I've never seen one of those, so I have no idea.

Do you dip a few of the chicks beaks in water? Once a few learn to drink, the rest will follow

I took 77 into lockdown. Of those, 16 were questionable. Either the egg was too dark to see veining, or I just didn't want to call it quits. In any event, I thought I had verified 61 eggs as being viable on day 18. Of course there could have been some late deaths in there, I rarely see movement in my candling. I mis-counted earlier, I have 20 hatches at this point. 5/38 from the Janoel, and 15/39 from the Brinsea. No, not my best hatch so far.

I had 4 21-day-old eggs set, 2 in each bator. 1 died early in the Janoel, and 1 hatched today in the Brinsea. The Brinsea has hatched a 21, 17, and two 16 day-old eggs. The Janoel has hatched a 17 day-old-egg today.

I did dip all of the beaks in the water when I put them in the bator. I am not watching them very frequently, too many things to do outside atm.

 

[scflock]

I took 77 into lockdown. Of those, 16 were questionable. Either the egg was too dark to see veining, or I just didn't want to call it quits. In any event, I thought I had verified 61 eggs as being viable on day 18. Of course there could have been some late deaths in there, I rarely see movement in my candling. I mis-counted earlier, I have 20 hatches at this point. 5/38 from the Janoel, and 15/39 from the Brinsea. No, not my best hatch so far.

I had 4 21-day-old eggs set, 2 in each bator. 1 died early in the Janoel, and 1 hatched today in the Brinsea. The Brinsea has hatched a 21, 17, and two 16 day-old eggs. The Janoel has hatched a 17 day-old-egg today.

I did dip all of the beaks in the water when I put them in the bator. I am not watching them very frequently, too many things to do outside atm.

Really, humor me. Would you just try running a full batch at 35-40% humidity for 18 days, 65% at lockdown, and 100.0 degrees on the display? I think the first time you tried that, you had egg issues. It sounds like your eggs have improved substantially, and you really do have a great incubator