Severe Respiratory Problems

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So last week I noticed my original Silver-laced Orpington seemed to be in some respiratory distress. She had labored breathing with an open beak and was sneezing/coughing fairly regularly. It's been really hot and they'd been dust bathing so I chalked up the first day to environmental issues. The second day; however, she was much worse. I managed to find a store about thirty minutes away that carried VetRX and was able to get it after work the following day. When I got home I thought it would be pretty pointless as she'd been standing under a cage with younger chickens and was covered in their feces. Her eyes were watering profusely, I was able from a distance to hear the gurgling, raspy breathing, and her nares (nostrils) were clogged with mucus. I got some VetRX into her and after a few minutes she actually perked up. She sat with me on the patio table for fifteen minutes or so before she asked to hop down. I put her on the ground and she proceeded to "chicken" for lack of a better word. It was obvious that she didn't feel great, but after cleaning her up where she was able to see and breathe, she preened a bit, looked through the grass, and moved where she was able to see the rest of the flock. I made the decision to keep her indoors over night and let her stay out in the small fenced in yard with food and water the next day if she was feeling better. I got a hospital area ready for her and picked her up. (This is where I think I made a mistake with her as she flapped and struggled which she hadn't done before.) I got her inside and settled and left her alone. When I came back out to check on her, she'd passed away, her mouth full of wet feed. I can only think that struggling caused her to start coughing and she regurgitated. The mucus plus the vomit filled her airways and she asphyxiated.

Several days went by with everyone else acting fine and now one of the roosters and a six month old pullet have developed the sneeze and cough. Obviously I've been watching them like a hawk, so I caught it much earlier. I've been administering the VetRX three times a day to the two sick birds (with a separate syringe) and once daily to the other Orpingtons.

Overnight seems to be the hardest on them and they look the worst in the morning. Between the second treatment and bed time they seem to feel much better and have an easier time breathing. I know the VetRX isn't going to fix the problem and unfortunately I do not have the time off from work in order to take one into a veterinarian if I can find one that can see and treat them. Is there anything else I could be giving them? A vet friend suggested putting them in the bathroom with a hot shower as the humidity would assist their breathing. Another friend suggest apple cider vinegar (which I thought helped more with bacteria in the stomach). Someone near by that does chickens suggested Denegard which I can't find locally at all.

According to the sticky, I will try to fill the following out as accurately as possible:

1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.)

All the affected birds have been Silver-laced Orpingtons. The first hen and the rooster are about 1.5 years of age and the pullet is 6 months. The other four Orpingtons (over 2 years) and the American Buff Geese (over 1 year) haven't been affected yet.

2) What is the behavior, exactly.

The affected bird has labored breathing, a thick cream-colored mucus that they attempt to cough up, sneezing and coughing often, lethargic behavior (not interested in eating or drinking most of the time, lying down the majority of the time, uninterested in things that they'd usually be interested in such as getting out to chase bugs, eat grass, etc.), as well as darker combs and wattles I assume caused from a lack of oxygen-rich blood due to the issues breathing.

3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?

The current birds began sneezing/coughing Saturday afternoon/evening

4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?

So far, no, the other four adult Orpingtons show no symptoms other than those caused be heat-related stress. I've been watching them really closely. Although, they are getting one preventative dose in a clean syringe, once daily.

5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.

N/A other than clear and evident signs of respiratory distress.

6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.

N/A

7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.

Not as much as normal, they are definitely losing weight, although yesterday after their afternoon treatment they did act much more normal, eating and drinking.

8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.

Looser than normal.

9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?

VetRX

10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?

I would prefer to treat them myself due to financial and time constraints but all serious and helpful suggestions are welcome.

11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.

I can provide a video of the breathing or pictures of them later today, but I don't have any currently have any on my phone.

12) Describe the housing/bedding in use

Outdoors; large run and access to a fully fenced in yard throughout the day; minimal white pine shavings on the floor of house (rat snakes were living under it so most of it was removed a few weeks ago).
 
So last week I noticed my original Silver-laced Orpington seemed to be in some respiratory distress. She had labored breathing with an open beak and was sneezing/coughing fairly regularly. It's been really hot and they'd been dust bathing so I chalked up the first day to environmental issues. The second day; however, she was much worse. I managed to find a store about thirty minutes away that carried VetRX and was able to get it after work the following day. When I got home I thought it would be pretty pointless as she'd been standing under a cage with younger chickens and was covered in their feces. Her eyes were watering profusely, I was able from a distance to hear the gurgling, raspy breathing, and her nares (nostrils) were clogged with mucus. I got some VetRX into her and after a few minutes she actually perked up. She sat with me on the patio table for fifteen minutes or so before she asked to hop down. I put her on the ground and she proceeded to "chicken" for lack of a better word. It was obvious that she didn't feel great, but after cleaning her up where she was able to see and breathe, she preened a bit, looked through the grass, and moved where she was able to see the rest of the flock. I made the decision to keep her indoors over night and let her stay out in the small fenced in yard with food and water the next day if she was feeling better. I got a hospital area ready for her and picked her up. (This is where I think I made a mistake with her as she flapped and struggled which she hadn't done before.) I got her inside and settled and left her alone. When I came back out to check on her, she'd passed away, her mouth full of wet feed. I can only think that struggling caused her to start coughing and she regurgitated. The mucus plus the vomit filled her airways and she asphyxiated.

Several days went by with everyone else acting fine and now one of the roosters and a six month old pullet have developed the sneeze and cough. Obviously I've been watching them like a hawk, so I caught it much earlier. I've been administering the VetRX three times a day to the two sick birds (with a separate syringe) and once daily to the other Orpingtons.

Overnight seems to be the hardest on them and they look the worst in the morning. Between the second treatment and bed time they seem to feel much better and have an easier time breathing. I know the VetRX isn't going to fix the problem and unfortunately I do not have the time off from work in order to take one into a veterinarian if I can find one that can see and treat them. Is there anything else I could be giving them? A vet friend suggested putting them in the bathroom with a hot shower as the humidity would assist their breathing. Another friend suggest apple cider vinegar (which I thought helped more with bacteria in the stomach). Someone near by that does chickens suggested Denegard which I can't find locally at all.

According to the sticky, I will try to fill the following out as accurately as possible:

1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.)

All the affected birds have been Silver-laced Orpingtons. The first hen and the rooster are about 1.5 years of age and the pullet is 6 months. The other four Orpingtons (over 2 years) and the American Buff Geese (over 1 year) haven't been affected yet.

2) What is the behavior, exactly.

The affected bird has labored breathing, a thick cream-colored mucus that they attempt to cough up, sneezing and coughing often, lethargic behavior (not interested in eating or drinking most of the time, lying down the majority of the time, uninterested in things that they'd usually be interested in such as getting out to chase bugs, eat grass, etc.), as well as darker combs and wattles I assume caused from a lack of oxygen-rich blood due to the issues breathing.

3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?

The current birds began sneezing/coughing Saturday afternoon/evening

4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?

So far, no, the other four adult Orpingtons show no symptoms other than those caused be heat-related stress. I've been watching them really closely. Although, they are getting one preventative dose in a clean syringe, once daily.

5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.

N/A other than clear and evident signs of respiratory distress.

6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.

N/A

7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.

Not as much as normal, they are definitely losing weight, although yesterday after their afternoon treatment they did act much more normal, eating and drinking.

8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.

Looser than normal.

9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?

VetRX

10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?

I would prefer to treat them myself due to financial and time constraints but all serious and helpful suggestions are welcome.

11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.

I can provide a video of the breathing or pictures of them later today, but I don't have any currently have any on my phone.

12) Describe the housing/bedding in use

Outdoors; large run and access to a fully fenced in yard throughout the day; minimal white pine shavings on the floor of house (rat snakes were living under it so most of it was removed a few weeks ago).
My birds went throught something similar this past winter. One got it and it soon spread to everyone except one older hen who I assume is immune or just lucky. I treated my birds with tylan. Usually on day 2 or 3 they would start to eat again, still congested and showing symptoms but they would eat. By day 5 they would only sneeze cough at night and by day 7 or 8 they would be back to normal. I to uses vetrx but I would drop some down their throats and rub it on their Combs and wattles so they would get relief to breathe. I would place it in warm water first to heat the bottle up and it worked better. Unless you isolate your birds and have good biosecurity it will go throught your whole flock. Even then it's not a promise they will stay healthy. Respiratory illnesses are very contagious and the strongest will survive and overcome. Provide electrolyte water if you can to help with strength. Boiled eggs are a good protein and sick food.
 
Where did you get the Tylan?
My local tractor supply store. It is for cattle but can be used for poultry. I purchased tylan 50. There is tylan 200 but it is more potent than the 50 and the dosage would be different. There is injectible and powder. It's up to you which was you want to go. If they aren't drinking then I see the powder for water useless. The Injectible is labeled for cattled and I gave it orrally. I've been told injection is absorbed better and would need to be done in the breast. I was more comfortable with oral it was quick and easy for me. 1/4cc for bantam 1/2cc for standard bird. I did 3/4 to 1 whole cc for my large 9 pound roosters once a day usually at night when they are in the coop calm and can sleep afterwards.
 
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Sorry for your loss. Have your sick chickens had a bad odor around their beaks? It can be hard to tell the different respiratory diseases apart, but it sounds like you may be dealing with MG or coryza (if there is a bad odor.) Had you recently added a new bird to your flock? I would call around your local feed stores to see if they have Tylan 50 or 200 in stock. If they do not, you can get Tylan powder for the drinking water in a few days here:
https://www.jedds.com/shop/tylan-soluble-100-g/
If you lose another bird, you can get a necropsy through your state vet to diagnose which disease is going around. That helps to know which antibiotic or if antibiotics will even help. Here is a good link to read about symptoms of MG, coryza, infectious bronchitis, and ILT:
https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044
 
Thank you. It has been months since I've added any new birds to the flock.

I haven't noticed an odd smell. But then I haven't actually stuck my face next to theirs' and smelled. I suppose I could try that with Sterling, the rooster when I get home.

Thank you for the links. I'll look those over.
 

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