Sex- linked Information

[LAFreewayChickens]

Oh it sounds like I have the opposites then, as I have a barred male and black female which I assume won't give me sex-linked chicks

Cream legbars carry gold, so you can do a red (gold/silver) sexlink. You probably want to use silver hens with columbian restriction if you can (looking back at the first post, these are "group" 1 or 2 females). I've used a Delaware hen, but in the UK people use Light Sussex.

In a pure Cream Legbar, the Gold is diluted by the cream (ig), but cream is recessive, so crossing with a non-cream bird, you get the gold expressed without cream dilution.

 

[GhostRider65]

Ok so a new question for Ridgerunner
I just ordered 5 New Hampshire chicks and want to cross with my BR hens, for the sport.....The Delawares
anyway would my resulting babies be BSL's that are of the not sport coloring? I'm hoping so that way I kill 2 birds with one stone........so to speak..... otherwise could I use my exsisting Del hens to get RSl's right? what about SLW's argggggggg this is all so confusing to me especially the Delawares because I only will keep the sports if the rest are not BSL........ these are my 2 best laying birds here, my BSL's lay like crazy a huge dark brown sometimes speckled egg, and my Dels, also lay a huge dark egg, but finding quality stock in the Dels is frustrating at best, and is almost impossible at worst, a few ppl on the Del thread started over and they have some great looking birds, not looking forward to culling so many babies tho........... it breaks my heart just to butcher our extra roo's every fall..... at least if they are BSL maybe I can sell them........ Ty very much Kim

 

[Ridgerunner]

Tim is the expert. Pick on him. I’m just a rookie trying to learn. I have no idea what you mean by all that sport talk.

New Hampshire Roosters over Barred Rock hens will give you Black Sex Links, a Group 4 Rooster over Group 1 Hen. The hen is barred and the male is not and the Extended Black from the hen should enable you to see the spot. So the male offspring will be split for barring and the female offspring will not be barred at all.

New Hampshire roosters over Delaware hens will give Red Sex Links. The roosters have gold and the hens have silver. The difference in down color should be pretty clear. That’s a Group 1 rooster over a Group 1 hen.

The Delaware hens also carry barring so the male offspring of the NH rooster over a Delaware hen will have barring and the female offspring will not. But I seriously doubt you will be able to see any spot on the males since they will pretty much have yellow down. On the adult male offspring you will be able to see the barring in the tail, saddle, and hackle feathers but you’ll probably have to look a bit to see it. The rooster will be basic white everywhere else so that will mask the barring there.

Don’t get the idea that just because they are sex links they will be good layers. There is no genetic link to egg laying and the genes that make them a sex link. If the parents are good egg layers, they normally will be too. The genetic link is how well the parents lay, not them being sex links.

 

[GhostRider65]

The sports of the NH roo over a BR hen are what created the Delawares in the original, they liked and bred the sports to create the breed. so that is what I was yacking about hehehe, hoping I can duplicate the same crosses to get a better Delaware hen and rooster. I just wasn't sure if the none sport chicks would be the BSL, and my girls are great layers
i HAVE 32 MIXED HENS giving me 28 to 30 eggs a day just now, guess no one told them that in the winter they are suppose to slow down. here is what I have for roos, and hens
I have my Del roo Hansom, and an EE named GrayBeard, I want a NH roo and a BCM roo to make BSL chicks, plus I want to try to get a good stock of Dels, the old fashioned way. anyway I have these hens
11 EE, all but 1 lays a blue or green shaded egg......
5 B.O. hens
2 SLW
1 RSL
2 Delaware
3 SS
2 BR
3 BSL
3 last years cross EE babies, a SLW/EE, and 2 EE cross from GB sister

 

[whoisit]

if you cross a ee with a brown egg layer they will than be olive eggers,just hatched some on 12-21-12

 

[catdaddyfro]

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The sports of the NH roo over a BR hen are what created the Delawares in the original, they liked and bred the sports to create the breed


Kim you have the info here just 180 out its Barred Rock male over New Hampshire female and this mating does not make a BSL(black sex-link), this cross will yield all barred progeny(F1) generation.

Jeff

 

[GhostRider65]

Yah I know, but I love the blue eggs I'm getting my 1 green egg is from a SLW/EE cross from last spring, she is a pretty laced girl named of course Lacy, my 2 chicks from GrayBeards sister Fileen, both lay an tan/pinkish egg..was hoping for a blue from them, but Fileen herself lays a pinkish tan egg........but apparently GrayBeard does carry the Blue egg gene at least 1 copy or Lacy would lay a tan egg also.... so I have 10 other girls to try come spring, gonna hatch from the bluest eggs I have and see what I get at POL......... crossing my fingers........ Kim

 

[tadkerson]

Ok so a new question for Ridgerunner
I just ordered 5 New Hampshire chicks and want to cross with my BR hens, for the sport.....The Delawares
anyway would my resulting babies be BSL's that are of the not sport coloring? I'm hoping so that way I kill 2 birds with one stone........so to speak..... otherwise could I use my exsisting Del hens to get RSl's right? what about SLW's argggggggg this is all so confusing to me especially the Delawares because I only will keep the sports if the rest are not BSL........ these are my 2 best laying birds here, my BSL's lay like crazy a huge dark brown sometimes speckled egg, and my Dels, also lay a huge dark egg, but finding quality stock in the Dels is frustrating at best, and is almost impossible at worst, a few ppl on the Del thread started over and they have some great looking birds, not looking forward to culling so many babies tho........... it breaks my heart just to butcher our extra roo's every fall..... at least if they are BSL maybe I can sell them........ Ty very much Kim

I agree with Ridgerunner and Jeff.

You will get male sports from a New Hampshire x Barred Rock cross only if the Barred Rock female is a hybrid. If she is not a hybrid, the cross will not produce sports only black sex links. The barred rock must be hybrid for the columbian gene and hybrid wheaten/extended black in order to produce a Del sport.

Tim

 

[GhostRider65]

Ok so explain how in the world I get that Hybrid hen? Now I'm even more confused....... is it second generation hen from the same cross? or something else?..Kim

 

[Phage]

great thread!