Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[bruceha2000]

I don't know Shad, I think it is highly corrupt, you collecting taxes for your personal benefit

 

[Sally PB]

I don't know Shad, I think it is highly corrupt, you collecting taxes for your personal benefit

But we all benefit from the taxes paid...

 

[bruceha2000]

I guess that is true, Shad allocates them equally to all who read here.

 

[Molpet]

My dad served in WW2 and wished the USA had joined the war when Hitler first started. Would have been a lot less lives lost and cheaper too.
I feel the same about Putin

 

[HiEverybirdy]

Tax for lurking while shaking my head about posts on non-chicken politics. Keep the dad jokes coming, though. Tis the season: it's a rooster and a pear tree ...or something like that.

 

[Shadrach]

I think this is really hard to explain in a few words. Basic infrastructure and a small government can be paid by tariff, corporate tax, etc. It doesn't have to tax on individuals. For example, in my very limited knowledge of US history, its federal government only started collecting income tax around 1913.

The US government inevitably grew bigger and bigger despite the founding fathers' great effort to limit it, since big government is always a great way to corrupt. So they have to create new ways to ''tax'' people.

US Department of Homeland security, such important sounding agency, was only created in 2002, a direct result of 911, which crisis the government took fully advantage of.

People have been taxed by the rich one way or another for centuries. At least they don't take a third of your food, or one of your children for slave work much anymore.

Like Manue, I'm more than happy to pay taxes to support the countries infrastructure. What I'm not happy about is how little control I/we have on what our taxes get spent on.

There's an interesting example of this in the UK currently. We have a government funded National Health systems. One of the greatest advances in social care ever undertaken imo. Most of those who work in the NHS get paid badly, from the cleaners right throught to the senior nurses and the tech divisions. Some doctors do reasonably well in the system.
The Nurses mainly went on strike recently. Almost of unheard of despite their years of sub standard pay. In part this is because nursing was considered by some to be a womens job and consequently worth less.

The government, despite the obvious inequality of nurses pay between the NHS and other private health concerns are refusing to pay a reasonable pay rise that would pull many out of what the goverment itself has defined as poverty.
I have little doubt that should the government ask the British public to vote on a large payrise for nurses the public would vote an overwhelming yes.
It's not that the government doesn't have the money, or rather can't get it given our national debt, but they won't pay.
I would like to have a vote on this. I would much rather we paid our health care workers decent wages than I would on many of the projects governments seem so fond of.

I've often thought that a form of purchase tax might be better than tax at source; we got that anyway in the UK with Value Added Tax (VAT). I understand it's a complicated system to set up, but I think there may be advantages to the system in the long term.
In the simplest of terms, if I buy a luxury item I expect to pay considerably more for it and get heavily taxed on that purchase. If I'm buying basics required to live above the poverty line, I don't want to be paying luxury item prices or any tax.

 

[BigBlueHen53]

Sorry, I’ll go sit in a corner for a bit.

I should have included a in my comment, it wasn't meant as a rebuke. I meant the Dad Jokes thread would love that one! Have you been over there lately? They're killin' it!

 

[BigBlueHen53]

People have been taxed by the rich one way or another for centuries. At least they don't take a third of your food, or one of your children for slave work much anymore.

Like Manue, I'm more than happy to pay taxes to support the countries infrastructure. What I'm not happy about is how little control I/we have on what our taxes get spent on.

There's an interesting example of this in the UK currently. We have a government funded National Health systems. One of the greatest advances in social care ever undertaken imo. Most of those who work in the NHS get paid badly, from the cleaners right throught to the senior nurses and the tech divisions. Some doctors do reasonably well in the system.
The Nurses mainly went on strike recently. Almost of unheard of despite their years of sub standard pay. In part this is because nursing was considered by some to be a womens job and consequently worth less.

The government, despite the obvious inequality of nurses pay between the NHS and other private health concerns are refusing to pay a reasonable pay rise that would pull many out of what the goverment itself has defined as poverty.
I have little doubt that should the government ask the British public to vote on a large payrise for nurses the public would vote an overwhelming yes.
It's not that the government doesn't have the money, or rather can't get it given our national debt, but they won't pay.
I would like to have a vote on this. I would much rather we paid our health care workers decent wages than I would on many of the projects governments seem so fond of.

I've often thought that a form of purchase tax might be better than tax at source; we got that anyway in the UK with Value Added Tax (VAT). I understand it's a complicated system to set up, but I think there may be advantages to the system in the long term.
In the simplest of terms, if I buy a luxury item I expect to pay considerably more for it and get heavily taxed on that purchase. If I'm buying basics required to live above the poverty line, I don't want to be paying luxury item prices or any tax.

You'd get my vote, Shad!

 

[Shadrach]

I don't know Shad, I think it is highly corrupt, you collecting taxes for your personal benefit

But it's not for my benefit, it pays for the threads infrastructure and benefits all of us.

 

[BigBlueHen53]

Paying my tax in freshly washed eggs from this summer. Obvi, one of my EE got into the markers instead of using the pastels. She got grounded for her misbehavior and has not messed with the markers since.