Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[MaryJanet]

Value Added Tax (VAT).

We call it the Goods and Services Tax (GST).

One of the key issues in setting it up was working out what to exclude. In the end, all fresh groceries were excluded from the GST so that families in difficult circumstances wouldn't pay GST on fresh food. But of course, all shoppers benefit.

I'm struggling to recall the details but I think also books are excluded. I have a dim recollection that learning through reading was considered very important.

"Very important" means different things in other countries.

Wrt income tax, I pay it quite happily. We pay as we go and we pay more than we strictly need to, then once a year the government pays us back what we overpaid.

I also find ways to chip in a little extra. My favourite is to buy a Saturday night lottery ticket because the profits from the Saturday night lottery go to the hospitals.

Like everyone, I have my views on how it's spent well and poorly, but in Australia that's very much down to the tyranny of the masses because our voter turnout is so high.

GST:

 

[no fly zone]

Please look further ahead. What will happen if they stop paying? Or Ukraine is falling?
Im no expert, but I do know for sure, I don’t want Poetin or any other leaders/country outside of Western Europe here to tell me what to do. Freedom of speech and free elections are very important for any future.

Ukraine was giving putin's boys the biz without our money

 

[Perris]

Ukraine was giving putin's boys the biz without our money

I'm sure you will get it back, with interest. I think we were paying you back for WWII loans until the 1970s.

 

[MaryJanet]

I'm sure you will get it back, with interest. I think we were paying you back for WWII loans until the 1970s.

2006 according to this reference. I can't comment on the credibility of the reference, it's merely something I turned up in a web search.

https://www.politics.co.uk/news/2006/12/29/britain-finally-pays-off-wwii-debt/

 

[lightm]

As a self-identified green libertarian, I agree with a lot of little pieces of the major parties. Getting money out of politics is my number one gripe with American elections. I think government should protect the environment and encourage people/corporations to do so through policy. I think importing goods from a country that moved jobs out of the US to somewhere that is paying workers in another country pennies should be import taxed heavily. I think the amount of government regulation over individual choices is insane, and is set up to hurt small farmers. If I want to pay my neighbor to process meat, and sell the cuts to another neighbor who knowingly knows where had it processed and how I raised it, that should be legal. But…protect citizens….my neighbor can buy cartons of cigarettes and cases of alcohol, but it is illegal to buy meat from an uninspected facility. Backyard chickens should not be illegal anywhere if they are housed and fed correctly and kept off of neighbors properties as requested. Gardens should not be illegal anywhere. There are so many things that bother me. I don’t want to derail the thread. Just pointing out that parties were created to separate the masses and keep us from questioning the leaders. Taxes are good for some things. Taxes are also used to fund projects and legislation to line the pockets of major players. There are few things that are inherently good or bad 100%.

Tax: Little Roser
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Little Roser is lovely.

I agree, especially on government hurting small farmer/business. It hurts me to see an amish farmer (Amos Miller), doing an honest business, recently raided by the feds and got lots of fines, all because he sold meats that he processed himself... His customers never complained.

Finally, I want to thank Shad for allowing these conversations. I definitely try not to talk politics, but when I do, I know it is going to be civil with a great diverse group of people here.

Foxy: I am learning my chicken politics, that is, respect the seniors!

 

[Solanacae]

I should have included a in my comment, it wasn't meant as a rebuke. I meant the Dad Jokes thread would love that one! Have you been over there lately? They're killin' it!

No offense taken, I thought it was quite hilarious to be redirected. I actually didn’t know there was a dad jokes thread! While I’m flattered, I don’t need more invitations to waste my time.

Maybe it's the 5 that were locked up

I wondered the same thing, but then I read what Shadrach said.

Little Roser is lovely.

I agree, especially on government hurting small farmer/business. It hurts me to see an amish farmer (Amos Miller), doing an honest business, recently raided by the feds and got lots of fines, all because he sold meats that he processed himself... His customers never complained.

Finally, I want to thank Shad for allowing these conversations. I definitely try not to talk politics, but when I do, I know it is going to be civil with a great diverse group of people here.

Foxy: I am learning my chicken politics, that is, respect the seniors!

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I really appreciate both the diversity and the respect that is shown here, it’s just lovely

 

[no fly zone]

but waste isn't theft. They are two quite different concepts.
Clearly taxes are a political issue, but surely language shouldn't be?

If they are abusing/misusing it, then it qualifies as theft to me.

 

[no fly zone]

And the vet called. Skeksis just has a few fatty lumps, nothing to worry about. We just switched the birds to a new lectin free feed two days ago, so the issue should self-correct.

 

[Shadrach]

And the vet called. Skeksis just has a few fatty lumps, nothing to worry about. We just switched the birds to a new lectin free feed two days ago, so the issue should self-correct.

That's great news; expensive news though.

 

[Iluveggers]

That's great news; expensive news though.

At least it was good expensive news!

@no fly zone very glad to hear it! Curious what feed you were previously using & how it contributed to the lumps.