She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

Not an option at this point, unfortunately.


No, no, no... Nothing is added. The chick's mass gain is from conversion (not the right word, I'm sure, but close enough...) of the yolk and albumin. Calcium for bones comes from the shell, which is why, in high school, we dissected eggs for embryology instead of having the eggs develop in jars (which some classes do, but you can't track normal development after a certain point).

Ironic--after how good I was at dissecting eggs a few decades ago, I couldn't bring myself to eggtopsy a few weeks ago--though that was as much fear of possible stinkiness than anything else.


Right! The 14% takes into account the growth of the chick and the conversion of all the fluids into the chick!
 
Not an option at this point, unfortunately.


No, no, no... Nothing is added. The chick's mass gain is from conversion (not the right word, I'm sure, but close enough...) of the yolk and albumin. Calcium for bones comes from the shell, which is why, in high school, we dissected eggs for embryology instead of having the eggs develop in jars (which some classes do, but you can't track normal development after a certain point).

Ironic--after how good I was at dissecting eggs a few decades ago, I couldn't bring myself to eggtopsy a few weeks ago--though that was as much fear of possible stinkiness than anything else.
Ok, I know I live in hickville, but embryology in highschool? Must be a western thing. Only thing we dissected was frogs...lol And they couldn't even afford to let us each have our own. We had to do it in groups. They stuck me with two guys who wouldn't even touch it, so I ended up doing all the work. Good thing they were freeze dried. If we had to kill them, I would have taken an F...lol

Right! The 14% takes into account the growth of the chick and the conversion of all the fluids into the chick!
See, I didn't even have to attempt to figure it out.....lol. Makes sense. I never really thought too hard about it since I don't weigh them.
 
I have to share this candling picture! Today is day 7. This egg inparticular is practically see-through, it's pretty amazing.
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That's a perfect picture! What do you use to candle?


Mine are almost 5 weeks old and I have a few different sizes, some bigger combs than others (even on smaller chicks) some fatter legs, only one with light-ish legs. So I'm still up in the air. I did notice a difference where the wattles will grow from. Some are wider than others, and some are getting red.
I like weighing, and charting etc. 5.8 average is not bad. I weigh each one, because I dont incubate too many at a time, and it lets me know if there is one or two swinging the average. If I have one high or low, I move it with one on the opposite end of the spectrum.


We shall see! When I look at all four, "Climb-a-dee," (yes I know they need better names, my five year old named him Climb-a-Dee because he likes to- you guessed it, climb. He climbs on her shoulder and nestles in her hair, he's a sweet boy) the one I think is a roo, stands out so much more. But I'm a newbie so I could be completely wrong.
 
I was worried had to check to see who's on heck I was away for4 hours and there only 3 new pages. Is some body sick or got lockjaw or something. did my Wednesday lockdown only 16 again humidity has been high here for the last 4 days no water added at all for the entire 18 day incubation its been running 45 to 50% the whole time a couple of my air cells look smaller than I like but we'll see what happens. I love that old bower Its easy to clean plug it in and in a hour its ready for lock down . I'm thinking I might make the 100 mile drive and get some more Mashburn BCM eggs in a couple of week's. I'm missing my Blowfish It's sad my wife came in tonight with one of her last eggs and wanted me to take a picture of it as maran eggs go it at least a 9 she hadn't been with the roos so we didn't get any hatching eggs out of her. Nor even a picture. gotta do something to cheer up so I'm going to tell you'll a story since the talk has been about guns so much lately. being from the south and all. we're good at doing that always heard a southern boy could talk fence post out of the ground also being from the hills of the south we where taught make the first shoot count and don't waste another one if your hunting big game .so we shoot pretty good I have timber land over on the eastern edge of middle Tn. many years ago a boundary dispute sprang mostly over them crossing mine and my neighbors land .any way we ended up in civil court over the matter . the fellar who was claiming he had rights to cross our land was on the stand testifying and accused my neighbor of shooting at him after dismissing him the judge called Curtis to the stand and asked him if he had shot at Mr. King Curtis looked at the Judge and said no judge and I can prove it. the judge asked him how he could prove it . Curtis replied cause he an't dead I thought the judge was going to throw us all in jail the only one that wasn't laughing was KIng and the Judge was finding it hard not to but we all new it was true even the judge Curtis was dismissed. we had to let him cross our land once a year to cut his timber.
 
Quote: 'Twas actually a genetics and embryology class. And we had the option to buy sex-link chicks and take them home! I also remember injecting chicks with testosterone to see how that affected development. I was doing quite well in the class, until the teacher lowered the weighting of the tests and raised the weighting of actual assignments. Went from an A- to a C
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I wonder if that class is still there, actually? Friend of mine is a teacher at that school now, so I guess it just depends on how curious I am... Can't possibly be the same teacher, though.
 
I was worried had to check to see who's on heck I was away for4 hours and there only 3 new pages. Is some body sick or got lockjaw or something. did my Wednesday lockdown only 16 again humidity has been high here for the last 4 days no water added at all for the entire 18 day incubation its been running 45 to 50% the whole time a couple of my air cells look smaller than I like but we'll see what happens. I love that old bower Its easy to clean plug it in and in a hour its ready for lock down . I'm thinking I might make the 100 mile drive and get some more Mashburn BCM eggs in a couple of week's. I'm missing my Blowfish It's sad my wife came in tonight with one of her last eggs and wanted me to take a picture of it as maran eggs go it at least a 9 she hadn't been with the roos so we didn't get any hatching eggs out of her. Nor even a picture. gotta do something to cheer up so I'm going to tell you'll a story since the talk has been about guns so much lately. being from the south and all. we're good at doing that always heard a southern boy could talk fence post out of the ground also being from the hills of the south we where taught make the first shoot count and don't waste another one if your hunting big game .so we shoot pretty good I have timber land over on the eastern edge of middle Tn. many years ago a boundary dispute sprang mostly over them crossing mine and my neighbors land .any way we ended up in civil court over the matter . the fellar who was claiming he had rights to cross our land was on the stand testifying and accused my neighbor of shooting at him after dismissing him the judge called Curtis to the stand and asked him if he had shot at Mr. King Curtis looked at the Judge and said no judge and I can prove it. the judge asked him how he could prove it . Curtis replied cause he an't dead I thought the judge was going to throw us all in jail the only one that wasn't laughing was KIng and the Judge was finding it hard not to but we all new it was true even the judge Curtis was dismissed. we had to let him cross our land once a year to cut his timber.

I love the story.

We have had issues here, our property is the old farmstead of a bigger farm but when the developers who bought all the farmland wanted to build a subdivision, the access was supposed to be through an existing subdivision. But the people who lived in the other sub had a conniption when heavy equipment started coming down their street so they called the police, then went to the township, who told the developer to build an access road. So he decided to use OUR driveway for his access road. Caused a lot of damage and a lot of hot tempers until I ordered a 5 yard dump load of 3' diameter oak logs and had them dropped square in the middle of the driveway.
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Then came the next battle, this place has been a farm since 1822 and the subdivision folks with their big box houses and postage stamp lots decided that moving to the country was great, as long as it looked like a subdivision with everything picture perfect and no country sounds or smells. So those neighbors went to the township and we ended up in a 2 1/2 year legal battle fighting to save our right to farm our own land...we did win, but it cost me a job, nearly cost me my marriage, and cost nearly $30,000 in legal bills. But I first joined BYC as a result (different account) so it wasn't all bad.
 
Ok, I know I live in hickville, but embryology in highschool? Must be a western thing. Only thing we dissected was frogs...lol And they couldn't even afford to let us each have our own. We had to do it in groups. They stuck me with two guys who wouldn't even touch it, so I ended up doing all the work. Good thing they were freeze dried. If we had to kill them, I would have taken an F...lol
frogs is good eaten
 
I was worried had to check to see who's on heck I was away for4 hours  and there only 3 new pages. Is some body sick or got lockjaw or something. did my Wednesday lockdown only 16 again humidity has been high here for the last 4 days no water added  at all for the entire 18 day incubation its been running 45 to 50% the whole time a couple of my air cells look smaller than I like but we'll see what happens. I love that old bower Its easy to clean plug it in and in a hour its ready for lock down . I'm thinking I might make the 100 mile drive and get some more Mashburn  BCM eggs in a couple of week's. I'm missing my Blowfish It's sad my wife came in tonight with one of her last eggs and wanted me to take a picture of it as maran eggs go it at least a 9  she hadn't been with the roos so we didn't get any hatching eggs out of her. Nor even a picture. gotta do something to cheer up so I'm going to tell you'll a story since the talk has been about guns so much lately. being from the south and all. we're good at doing  that always heard a southern boy could talk fence post out of the ground also being from the hills of the south we where taught  make the first shoot count and don't waste another one if your hunting big game .so we shoot pretty good I have timber land over on the eastern edge of middle Tn. many years ago a boundary  dispute sprang mostly over them crossing mine  and my neighbors land .any way we ended up in civil court over the matter . the fellar who was claiming he had rights to cross our land was on the stand testifying and accused my neighbor of shooting at him after dismissing  him the judge called Curtis to the stand and asked him if he had shot at Mr. King  Curtis looked at the Judge and said no judge and I can prove it. the judge asked him how he could prove it . Curtis replied cause he an't dead I thought the judge was going to throw us all in jail the only one that wasn't laughing was KIng and the Judge was finding it hard not to but we all new it was true even the judge Curtis was dismissed.  we had to let him cross our land once a year to cut his timber.


That story was great! I'm still laughing.

I'm running dry and my incubator has been between 30%-40% humidity. Most is staying right at 35% though, only hit 30% and 40% once so far for a couple of hours.
 
I was worried had to check to see who's on heck I was away for4 hours and there only 3 new pages. Is some body sick or got lockjaw or something. did my Wednesday lockdown only 16 again humidity has been high here for the last 4 days no water added at all for the entire 18 day incubation its been running 45 to 50% the whole time a couple of my air cells look smaller than I like but we'll see what happens. I love that old bower Its easy to clean plug it in and in a hour its ready for lock down . I'm thinking I might make the 100 mile drive and get some more Mashburn BCM eggs in a couple of week's. I'm missing my Blowfish It's sad my wife came in tonight with one of her last eggs and wanted me to take a picture of it as maran eggs go it at least a 9 she hadn't been with the roos so we didn't get any hatching eggs out of her. Nor even a picture. gotta do something to cheer up so I'm going to tell you'll a story since the talk has been about guns so much lately. being from the south and all. we're good at doing that always heard a southern boy could talk fence post out of the ground also being from the hills of the south we where taught make the first shoot count and don't waste another one if your hunting big game .so we shoot pretty good I have timber land over on the eastern edge of middle Tn. many years ago a boundary dispute sprang mostly over them crossing mine and my neighbors land .any way we ended up in civil court over the matter . the fellar who was claiming he had rights to cross our land was on the stand testifying and accused my neighbor of shooting at him after dismissing him the judge called Curtis to the stand and asked him if he had shot at Mr. King Curtis looked at the Judge and said no judge and I can prove it. the judge asked him how he could prove it . Curtis replied cause he an't dead I thought the judge was going to throw us all in jail the only one that wasn't laughing was KIng and the Judge was finding it hard not to but we all new it was true even the judge Curtis was dismissed. we had to let him cross our land once a year to cut his timber.
That there's funny, I don't care who you are!!
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'Twas actually a genetics and embryology class. And we had the option to buy sex-link chicks and take them home! I also remember injecting chicks with testosterone to see how that affected development. I was doing quite well in the class, until the teacher lowered the weighting of the tests and raised the weighting of actual assignments. Went from an A- to a C
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I wonder if that class is still there, actually? Friend of mine is a teacher at that school now, so I guess it just depends on how curious I am... Can't possibly be the same teacher, though.
Oh my gosh! What kind of animal torture schools you got out that way??
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frogs is good eaten
Ewe! I ain't French. I'm american with Scottish/Irish/English heritage. I'm a Campbell, we're better suited for masacuring people not animals.
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