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[WalnutHill]

Fast week. I think that's why the thread has died this week. At least in my case, I have been double busy because of the short week. Hopefully I will get time to sling some insanity soon and get everyone riled back up

Since you aren't going to argue the justifications for your parade, let me grab a calculator and run some numbers. You should have never counted the cracked egg in lockdown...
Stay tuned for my numbers, then we will put it to a thread vote

Well, in case you can't make a parade, how about a smack down?

24 turkey eggs set refrigerated up to 4 weeks at 34F

8 viable at 10 days

5 made it to week 3

2 were alive at lockdown

2 hatched unassisted in the Eco 20 and are healthy, happy buggers.

 

[kwhites634]

Started a small clutch in the incubator on 8/29; no water, temp about 99 according to two thermometers, RH unknown 'cause I had no hygrometer. Hygrometer/thermometer arrived two days ago; RH was only 30% & air cells were about the size of a dime, so I added some water. RH went up to 60% overnight, but temp dropped to 95.6. Been adjusting it ever since. RH has been holding steady @ 60% for last 12 hrs. Managed to get the temp. back up to 97.6 so far...this is day 13.

I'm open to suggestions at this point. Afraid to take water out for fear of a drastic temp. spike. Inclined to leave well enough alone @ be prepared for a delayed hatch.
Any ideas?

 

[WalnutHill]

Started a small clutch in the incubator on 8/29; no water, temp about 99 according to two thermometers, RH unknown 'cause I had no hygrometer. Hygrometer/thermometer arrived two days ago; RH was only 30% & air cells were about the size of a dime, so I added some water. RH went up to 60% overnight, but temp dropped to 95.6. Been adjusting it ever since. RH has been holding steady @ 60% for last 12 hrs. Managed to get the temp. back up to 97.6 so far...this is day 13.

I'm open to suggestions at this point. Afraid to take water out for fear of a drastic temp. spike. Inclined to leave well enough alone @ be prepared for a delayed hatch.
Any ideas?

With such tiny air cells, I'd not trust your hygrometer's 30% reading unless you calibrated it.

Your current temp is too low and humidity too high for proper development. The air cells should be much bigger than a dime by 10 days in. I've gotten to where I now add just a splash of water if I feel air cells are getting too large, until lockdown when I go for 75% or more.

 

[WVduckchick]

With such tiny air cells, I'd not trust your hygrometer's 30% reading unless you calibrated it.

Your current temp is too low and humidity too high for proper development. The air cells should be much bigger than a dime by 10 days in. I've gotten to where I now add just a splash of water if I feel air cells are getting too large, until lockdown when I go for 75% or more.

x2 !

 

[scflock]

I had a horrible day at work. I hate it when work gets in the way of my BYC time!

SC, you are probably already gone for the evening, but you can bring the old SC back when you see this... not much new to add really.

4 of 4 silver duckwing OEGBs hatched - 100% that is!! Yes!
1 of 1 silver sebright (although I just found out its not pure... oops) 100%
5 of 6 black tail buff Japanese - which is excellent considering they carry a lethal gene - I think 83.33% is pretty darn good!
My parade ruiner is the golden sebrights. 8 of 13. I didn't mention this before, because I chose to lock it down anyway, but I cracked one egg when I took the rails out. I hoped it would make it and I left it in because it deserved a chance. But it died. My bad. I still have the 3 in the Brinsea, and one has internally pipped and is still alive, but I think it is shrinkwrapped. I made an air hole, but hubby says after he culled my slipped-tendon baby, he won't do it again. So I'm more inclined to let this one die in shell if it can't get out on its own. I set at 10pm, so I "plan" to give it till 10 tonight. I highly doubt it will make it.

So overall, I guess I'm shy of your parade percentage. I'm sorry. You can bring the old SC back and smack me for not meeting your quota! But I'm pretty happy about the hatch and the Brinsea anyway. (I still think the BTBJ's are parade worthy on their own!)

Ok, there are a few different ways to look at this:
18/24 is 75%, but the cracked egg should never have been counted, so 18/23 is 78%. Considering you drove over 2 hours to get the eggs, I think some leeway should be given in the "shipped" category. 75% is still a great hatch, and I know 85% is the hatch rate for unshipped parades, but a 2 hour drive for untested eggs is a new variable

Ok, now for the "creative" math:
By breed, 100%+100%+83.33%+61.5%= 344.83%
344.83/4= 86.2075. Over a point over parade qualification

If we go purely by breed, then you get two parades: One for the OEGBs and one for the silver sebright. Add those two 100% hatches to the black tailed Japanese, and that pulls the three breed average to 94.44%, and that equals three parades. Assuming those lazy goldens drop the averages of two of those breeds below 85%, I still owe you the third parade.


It's up to you and the thread. I won't throw it if you don't want it, but the numbers don't lie

 

[WVduckchick]

Ok, there are a few different ways to look at this:
18/24 is 75%, but the cracked egg should never have been counted, so 18/23 is 78%. Considering you drove over 2 hours to get the eggs, I think some leeway should be given in the "shipped" category. 75% is still a great hatch, and I know 85% is the hatch rate for unshipped parades, but a 2 hour drive for untested eggs is a new variable

Ok, now for the "creative" math:
By breed, 100%+100%+83.33%+61.5%= 344.83%
344.83/4= 86.2075. Over a point over parade qualification

If we go purely by breed, then you get two parades: One for the OEGBs and one for the silver sebright. Add those two 100% hatches to the black tailed Japanese, and that pulls the three breed average to 94.44%, and that equals three parades. Assuming those lazy goldens drop the averages of two of those breeds below 85%, I still owe you the third parade.


It's up to you and the thread. I won't throw it if you don't want it, but the numbers don't lie

Now that's some impressive chicken math!

Well of course, I want a parade!!! Of course, I wished more had hatched. So I will defer to the crowd......

 

[scflock]

You guys are talk a holics! Catching up was..somewhat fun though.

Ummmm... this was a slow day...

Yep--I was just thinking how unusually quiet it had been

Must be the 'off' week... think I can even hear an echo in the thread, lol...

giggles, I get lost not knowing everyone that well though!

It's been extremely slow this week. This thread usually moves 100 mph, but everyone is off, especially me

My OCD won't let me accept the silence, my passive aggressiveness won't let me read without replying, and my narcissism needs the attention, but even scflock has to work sometimes

It will get back to form, soon, and the bad part is that after I have been pent up for so long there is no telling what might happen

ETA: The personality profiles are fun, and I haven't done one in a while, so I will get a roundup for Sally as soon as I get time

 

[scflock]

Now that's some impressive chicken math!

Well of course, I want a parade!!! Of course, I wished more had hatched. So I will defer to the crowd......

Voting goes from now until 12:00PM
Simple yes or no, people

 

[rossfam06]

I had a horrible day at work.  I hate it when work gets in the way of my BYC time! 
SC, you are probably already gone for the evening, but you can bring the old SC back when you see this... not much new to add really.

4 of 4 silver duckwing OEGBs hatched - 100% that is!! Yes!
1 of 1 silver sebright (although I just found out its not pure... oops)  100%
5 of 6 black tail buff Japanese - which is excellent considering they carry a lethal gene - I think 83.33% is pretty darn good!
My parade ruiner is the golden sebrights.  8 of 13.  I didn't mention this before, because I chose to lock it down anyway, but I cracked one egg when I took the rails out.  I hoped it would make it and I left it in because it deserved a chance.  But it died.  My bad.  I still have the 3 in the Brinsea, and one has internally pipped and is still alive, but I think it is shrinkwrapped.  I made an air hole, but hubby says after he culled my slipped-tendon baby, he won't do it again.  So I'm more inclined to let this one die in shell if it can't get out on its own.  I set at 10pm, so I "plan" to give it till 10 tonight.  I highly doubt it will make it. 

So overall, I guess I'm shy of your parade percentage.  I'm sorry.  You can bring the old SC back and smack me for not meeting your quota!  But I'm pretty happy about the hatch and the Brinsea anyway.  (I still think the BTBJ's are parade worthy on their own!)

That Brinsea is making you more and more blue!!!!!

 

[scflock]

That Brinsea is making you more and more blue!!!!!

My feeling on this is that if the chicks are meant to hatch, they hatch in the Brinsea. Most I have assisted were culled later. I don't even check for life any more when I shut down