She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

[WVduckchick]

What a sweet baby. They all are. While it seems so sad that they can't all make it, imagine the chicken population if they did...

So true. Oh, I found a buyer for my turkey. They are coming to get her this afternoon. They have other turkeys, so she will be a pet for a while! Yeah.

 

[scflock]

Thanks! And welcome back, I hope you are feeling better.


All points well taken.

See, I feel both sides. A lot of both sides! Which is why I came to the determination that it depends on the circumstances.

Anyway, I don't have time this morning to go into many details, but I spent time with the little fella last night, even laid him on my bare belly for a while. I knew he wasn't going to thrive. I did get him to take a few drinks, but he didn't move around much last night. This morning, he was still alive and I gave him a few more drinks. Then he died peacefully. And I'm at peace with what I did. I will still review the what-ifs, but only to learn from them. No regrets.

I took this just minutes before he passed.




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I'm sorry he didn't make it. If it was going to happen, that was the easiest way on you

 

[WalnutHill]

Copy from my Hatching 101 article

Researchers have found that lowering temperatures will prolong incubation,
HOWEVER it is favourable to do so at the end of incubation.
Day 19 & 20 Temp Min 98.0 Max 98.5
Day 21 Temp Min 97 Max 98.0
for more information please refer here:


SEE PAGE 42 www.hubbardbreeders.com/media/incubation_guide_english__030374800_0945_07012015.pdf



EDITED TO MAKE LINK WORK!

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Here is another good link on temperatures (other than hatching): http://www.brinsea.co.uk/downloads5...3TTLGPrft0HL3SRJQ&sig2=ePm_olx_lw8htzIj11I3_g

 

[FridayYet]

See, I feel both sides. A lot of both sides! Which is why I came to the determination that it depends on the circumstances. Anyway, I don't have time this morning to go into many details, but I spent time with the little fella last night, even laid him on my bare belly for a while. I knew he wasn't going to thrive. I did get him to take a few drinks, but he didn't move around much last night. This morning, he was still alive and I gave him a few more drinks. Then he died peacefully. And I'm at peace with what I did. I will still review the what-ifs, but only to learn from them. No regrets. I took this just minutes before he passed. .

 

[RubyNala97]

Share, teach, learn and respect others rights to their own opinions... that is why I love this thread and all the people on it...

I really like this sentence.

And then you have the ones that surprise the heck outta you... opened the bator to find this little kiddo sitting all proud... Araucana bantam from broody eggs with unknown due date...

Humidity when it hatched (yes, it's accurate, lol)...

And the egg it popped out of...

Life is Chaos...

That is so awesome!!

Then you are red, lol... this whole thread was started because AmyLynn2374 and scflock kept giving opposite views on assisted hatches... Amy assists whenever needed (the red side) and sc doesn't assist unless he feels he caused the issue requiring assistance (the blue side)... they fully respect each others views, opinions and hatching styles, but have opposite ways of approaching dilemmas... the thread started with a friendly hatch-off to see which way ended in a higher percentage of chicks hatching and it has grown from there... now it is a place for people needing advice to get it from different perspectives to be able to choose what they're most comfortable with doing in their own hatches...

If you assist then you are red... if you don't then you are blue... if you only assist in certain circumstances you are purple, or any color variation in between... oh, and ones who go in and find a chicks beak to get it internally pipped is orange, which is waaay past red...

And you can't be blue and be candling addict!

Velkommen!!

Ravyn explained it well. 
Some of us are so new to hatching, that we don't know where we fall on the spectrum.
Being blue also seems to require a good deal of lotion.
Most of us can barely keep up with this stinkin' thread anyhow, but it's a good time when we are here.



Looks like I checked in on a good night(good discussion).  How's E1 doing?


Theoretically I agree with this statement 100%.  It is so difficult to break free from that supermarkert-food-supplied-for-me-nice-and-neat mind-set.  Even our first eggs seemed strange to me. lol  Now I can't live without them.

However, we still have those cock birds that are just plain extra--taking up food and space.   I tell myself that I haven't processed them b/c the process itself is intimidating and I don't want to pluck all those feathers(I have tactile issues), and that is part of it, but I also know those birds. They have names.  Even big fat meany has won a place in my black little heart.

So I start putting ads up to re-home on CL, but that seems unfair, too.  I know someone is going to send them to freezer camp, and what if they are cruel about it.  A friend brought up cock-fighting.  I don't know how logical that is, but now I'm worried about that aspect of it, too.  So they remain in the bachelor pad. Something has to give, though.  We have neighbors and four birds having a crow-off every morning is getting old. lol

I'm in that same predicament. So I know exactly how you feel.

Ok, before I start getting all flocky this morning, I want to have one of my rare serious moments...
The average person will experience a handfull of life changing events in their lifetime. 9/11 was one of them. My wife and I hadn't been dating long, so for some reason this day sticks out more to me than any other day of the year, even more than the 4th of July. I know everyone remembers where they were (except maybe BR ). I can't believe that seniors in high school were babies when that happened.
I was a superintendent on a construction job at a nuclear power plant on 9/11. I heard people talking about it all day, but had not seen the footage. The plant was near an airport, and the first thing you noticed was there wasn't a plane in the sky. By lunchtime we had two F-16s flying cover. On 9/11, you could hold up your badge to the guard at the entrance and he would wave you through. On 9/12, there was a mile long wait to get in while the national guard did thorough searches of every vehicle.
The thing I remember the most, after seeing the shocking carnage on television when I got home, was the national pride that started on 9/12. Before the politics and religion took over, do you guys remember all of the American flags people were flying in their windows? I know, for me, NY might as well have been another country before 9/11. Now, every year, I watch NGTV for 3 days straight to see the stories of the peoples lives that were affected. It makes me cry...
I just wanted to share that this morning, and I'm sure many of you feel reflective on this day as well.

Enough of that. Personality profiles at lunch

I appreciate you be serious about this. I don't talk about it much (except for when I was in therapy) but I was in 9/11. I was going to NYU and lived on the lower east side. Getting ready for class, turned on the tv to see what the weather would be, so I would know what kind of shoes to wear. The news thought a traffic helicopter accidentally hit the building. (I could see the towers from my bedroom window on the 19th floor). So I left for class. The rest was just a total nightmare. Saw images I will never forget. Couldn't sleep for months!!

 

[WalnutHill]

I appreciate you be serious about this. I don't talk about it much (except for when I was in therapy) but I was in 9/11. I was going to NYU and lived on the lower east side. Getting ready for class, turned on the tv to see what the weather would be, so I would know what kind of shoes to wear. The news thought a traffic helicopter accidentally hit the building. (I could see the towers from my bedroom window on the 19th floor). So I left for class. The rest was just a total nightmare. Saw images I will never forget. Couldn't sleep for months!!

Wow.

My brother in law was supposed to be in one of the towers for a meeting, but he missed his flight. Of course we were all eternally grateful to have avoided a family tragedy, but it made what we saw hit closer to home.

 

[scflock]

I appreciate you be serious about this. I don't talk about it much (except for when I was in therapy) but I was in 9/11. I was going to NYU and lived on the lower east side. Getting ready for class, turned on the tv to see what the weather would be, so I would know what kind of shoes to wear. The news thought a traffic helicopter accidentally hit the building. (I could see the towers from my bedroom window on the 19th floor). So I left for class. The rest was just a total nightmare. Saw images I will never forget. Couldn't sleep for months!!

Sorry to trigger bad memories, but that's why I wanted to be serious about it. This day means a lot to me. Really, the disdain southerners feel for yankees, NY in particular, is real. After 9/11, it made me more aware of how close we all really are. The accents are different, the lifesyles are different, but there were thousands of good, real people that suffered greatly because of that. Last night there were shows about 9/10. Photos and videos taken by people in the tower on 9/10 that would die the next morning. It's heartbreaking

 

[OldMissionChick]

Ok, before I start getting all flocky this morning, I want to have one of my rare serious moments...
The average person will experience a handfull of life changing events in their lifetime. 9/11 was one of them. My wife and I hadn't been dating long, so for some reason this day sticks out more to me than any other day of the year, even more than the 4th of July. I know everyone remembers where they were (except maybe BR ). I can't believe that seniors in high school were babies when that happened.
I was a superintendent on a construction job at a nuclear power plant on 9/11. I heard people talking about it all day, but had not seen the footage. The plant was near an airport, and the first thing you noticed was there wasn't a plane in the sky. By lunchtime we had two F-16s flying cover. On 9/11, you could hold up your badge to the guard at the entrance and he would wave you through. On 9/12, there was a mile long wait to get in while the national guard did thorough searches of every vehicle.
The thing I remember the most, after seeing the shocking carnage on television when I got home, was the national pride that started on 9/12. Before the politics and religion took over, do you guys remember all of the American flags people were flying in their windows? I know, for me, NY might as well have been another country before 9/11. Now, every year, I watch NGTV for 3 days straight to see the stories of the peoples lives that were affected. It makes me cry...
I just wanted to share that this morning, and I'm sure many of you feel reflective on this day as well.

Enough of that. Personality profiles at lunch

that was a very confusing day for me as well. I was 21, just signed my contract and took my oath to the military just days before. I was working at Gander Mountain stacking the ammo shelves (how appropriate) when the news came over the radio (I wasn't listening to anything around me as I was lost in the thought of my recent commitment to our country). One of my coworkers came running around the corner yelling "we're going to war!" Not long after that hordes of people were running all over & fighting over boxes of ammo and yelling at me when everything was gone. The rest of that day and the days that followed were complete chaos from where I worked to the banks & grocery stores even the roads. But none compared to the airport weeks later when I was scheduled to fly out for basic training. The stepped up security with more check points. I wondered if my job as Military Police would mean I would be state side protecting American soil or if I would be sent overseas. There was many emotions from everyone from anger, confusion, extreme sadness and hatred.

 

[scflock]

There was many emotions from everyone from anger, confusion, extreme sadness and hatred.

Yes, all of those

 

[WVduckchick]

I really like this sentence.

I appreciate you be serious about this. I don't talk about it much (except for when I was in therapy) but I was in 9/11. I was going to NYU and lived on the lower east side. Getting ready for class, turned on the tv to see what the weather would be, so I would know what kind of shoes to wear. The news thought a traffic helicopter accidentally hit the building. (I could see the towers from my bedroom window on the 19th floor). So I left for class. The rest was just a total nightmare. Saw images I will never forget. Couldn't sleep for months!!

I liked that sentence too...

And WOW, I feel for you dear...