She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

You could get a toilet paper/paper towel cardboard roll and cut it short. You might have to put some tissue or something around the base to hold it up, but that would at least hold it upright. A ring of heavy construction paper might work as well. 


I agree!!! A lot more breathable.
 
I would agree the air cells look small for lockdown. Personally, I would run dry until I either heard chirping from inside the shell or saw the first pip, and I would hatch upright in cut down cartons.

They also look a bit underdeveloped.
Is there a way to check for internal pips without candling? I'm trying to handle them as little as possible. I guess I can do what I have been doing and candle them without moving them out of the bator.
What she said!!! The easiest thing to do would be to go out and buy some eggs (horror!)
 
I am concerned about the updates from the 2 earlier buyers of those... j/s... :/

I am too. The air cells looked pretty good, a couple were a little wobbly. They were packed well, not as well as yours though. I had them sit for 12 hours and will not start turning for 4 days, the same as I did with yours. I have not added any water. I will check the air cells when I candle at day 7. I will do my best and give her feed back.
 
You could get a toilet paper/paper towel cardboard roll and cut it short. You might have to put some tissue or something around the base to hold it up, but that would at least hold it upright. A ring of heavy construction paper might work as well. 



I agree!!! A lot more breathable.
K, I'll do that, we have lots of empty toilet paper rolls, I think my kids eat toilet paper, lol, a 12 pack lasts about a week and a half here. So what should the temp be at the top of the eggs? Someone last time told me to keep a little cooler during lockdown I think.
 
Better to laugh than cry I guess, lol. She's seriously p***in me off though. I really want to go to her house and make her talk to me, face to face. And I've been thinking of doing like you said though, just cutting my loses and working with what I get from this hatch, if anything. I don't want anymore dirty, nasty eggs to stress over and this time they would be shipped on top of being filthy so I'm sure they wouldn't do good at all. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the first person she's done this to. The bad thing is she runs a website for selling Icelandics and eggs. I wish I had seen some feedback or comments on her so called "services" but of course there wasn't anything like that on her site.
ETA: Did you wash your's also?

I did not wash mine. I didn't see any bloom on them when they arrived which was my first clue that she probably washed em...
Many were completely clear at day 8 and the rest were in bad shape. A majority got a red ring from bacteria and died. Of the final 5, 2 died in shell fully formed and 3 hatched. 1 had leg problems that never went away so he was culled and now I have two left. 2 from that whole mess. The two heathy ones that hatched had clean shells with the bloom still on. Not sure why anyone would send a majority of nasty eggs.

This new batch I've got from TJ Chickens was all immaculate except for 5 of the 32 and its all minor smudges. Very very happy with these eggs. They were shipped. 22 are growing after an over 3000 mile trip in a box. Its a testament to her packing job to be sure.
 
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Dry em out @meganhundley
Way too much moisture. If they pip now they will drown. Air cells put them behind...you might have a late hatch if they can hang on til the egg dries out more. I don't see the air cell drawn down like it should be...

Let me post an amazing tool I found. It might give you an idea of where the air cell should be in order to be ready to hatch.
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K, I'll do that, we have lots of empty toilet paper rolls, I think my kids eat toilet paper, lol, a 12 pack lasts about a week and a half here. So what should the temp be at the top of the eggs? Someone last time told me to keep a little cooler during lockdown I think.
I may well be missing something in this nightmare, but I'm getting the impression that this woman you got the eggs from is at least trying to make it right. Sounds like she still has a lot to learn, but that could be said about most of us, I reckon. I still don't know that I'd get any more eggs from her, though.
 
These bantam eggs I've got are a learning curve. They lose moisture so easily. My usual humidity doesn't work on these guys. I'm up near 55-60 just to keep em from losing all their moisture. Day 9 and I'm on track with moisture loss...blows my mind that these little guys need that much humidity. Day 5 looked like day 7 plus some at 45-50% so I cranked it up and I will check em again tomorrow. I dunno what their deal is but so far everyone is happy and air cells are still growing so.... I guess my bantams are teaching me a lesson in how much trouble I'm in early on. Lol they are already high maintenance.
 
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