She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

@Pyxis, I never treated my dog quite that way, I used the distraction, exercising, ignoring, owning my space part of the idea. I can't follow specific directions for too long, at some point I make it my own depending on the situation. But thank you for the latest from dog psychology university. :)
 
Ravyn & Pyxis~ very interesting info on the dog training! I thought Milan was supposed to be great for his techniques but I guess not. I love that you guys teach me something new everyday!
 
@Pyxis, I never treated my dog quite that way, I used the distraction, exercising, ignoring, owning my space part of the idea. I can't follow specific directions for too long, at some point I make it my own depending on the situation. But thank you for the latest from dog psychology university. :)


His techniques do work, but they are very dependent on situation... I like Temple's better as she doesn't say "do this" or "do that"...


Ravyn & Pyxis~ very interesting info on the dog training! I thought Milan was supposed to be great for his techniques but I guess not. I love that you guys teach me something new everyday!


As I said, not knocking his techniques, I've just found that it is better to be able to see things from their point of view to be able to adjust what we do with each animal... if we can understand what they are doing and why they are doing it, we can figure out how to change things to work with them instead of against them...

Btw, all of the Animal Behavior and Animal Training classes I took were based on Temple's insight... it might not work for everyone, but it sure works for me, lol... :D ;)
 
His techniques do work, but they are very dependent on situation... I like Temple's better as she doesn't say "do this" or "do that"...
As I said, not knocking his techniques, I've just found that it is better to be able to see things from their point of view to be able to adjust what we do with each animal... if we can understand what they are doing and why they are doing it, we can figure out how to change things to work with them instead of against them...

Btw, all of the Animal Behavior and Animal Training classes I took were based on Temple's insight... it might not work for everyone, but it sure works for me, lol... :D ;)

I hadn't heard of her, thank you. I'll look into that for some more tricks in the bag. A different outfit for every occasion :)
 
I swear I skipped a ton of posts so that my multiquote wouldn't be long and I still managed to end up with 7...
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Thanks for sharing this. I thought it was super cool!!
Handsome dogs! I had a pit I rescued in college. A bunch of gang kids had him in the park, next to this diner in the city and were feeding him old spaghetti out of the garbage can. I offered them $20 and took the puppy. He turned out to be the best dog. So affectionate and lovable!
Good for you! I hope you nail her butt!
That's a great sign!! Means the eggs are super fresh. Less damage with tiny air cells!!
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I'm serious, try the MPH outside. It was super easy!! That's what happened to me, around week 3, I changed and cleaned the whole brooder and next day it already stunk! So they went out and we were both happy. They are doing great!
Keep it up, Amy. It will probably take awhile. Just be consistent and kind.
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Oh no!
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I placed an order for some pullets from a top breeder and they will be shipped this month. I know I'm going to be a nervous wreck! And you can't put water in the box. I'm praying for them and you. Keep us posted if you get an update!
Thanks.
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If I didn't see the desire in his eyes or thought for one moment that the snapping was coming from anywhere besides pure fear, he wouldn't still be here. He's not vicious at all. It's obvious that he's reacting to triggers from past treatment. Almost like split personality. He wants to be loved and petted and all, but then there's a trigger that makes him react.

Ravyn & Pyxis~ very interesting info on the dog training! I thought Milan was supposed to be great for his techniques but I guess not. I love that you guys teach me something new everyday!
I thought Milan was top of his field as well, not that I had any idea what his "methods" are. My tv watching consists of NCIS and Bones..,lol The 100 when it is on....lol But I think no matter what the method, when you are dealing with an abused animal, and not just training or obedience that there is no handbook. An abused animal has it's own triggers and cause and effect and each case should be evaluated by the individual animal and what works. Patience and gentleness being/ foremost. Positive reinforcement a must.
 
One thing you may want to try is to simply sit on the floor with your son in a comfortable place, out in the open, like on a family room rug. Lay down and play a board game, or sit down and share a snack. When you are on his level and not moving around, you may find he comes near out of curiosity. Pat the floor, an invitation to join you, and leave it at that.

Repeat daily, and you may find he just walks up to join you one day, with a doggy smile and wagging tail. Reward him with kind words, hold off on the touch until he invites it by leaning on or rubbing on you.

I gentled (rather than broke) many horses growing up. Kindness and trust is a slower method than force and fear, but the results are much better!
 
One thing you may want to try is to simply sit on the floor with your son in a comfortable place, out in the open, like on a family room rug.  Lay down and play a board game, or sit down and share a snack.  When you are on his level and not moving around, you may find he comes near out of curiosity.  Pat the floor, an invitation to join you, and leave it at that.  

Repeat daily, and you may find he just walks up to join you one day, with a doggy smile and wagging tail.  Reward him with kind words, hold off on the touch until he invites it by leaning on or rubbing on you.

I gentled (rather than broke) many horses growing up.  Kindness and trust is a slower method than force and fear, but the results are much better!

That is wonderful!
 
Thanks. :hugs  If I didn't see the desire in his eyes or thought for one moment that the snapping was coming from anywhere besides pure fear, he wouldn't still be here. He's not vicious at all. It's obvious that he's reacting to triggers from past treatment. Almost like split personality. He wants to be loved and petted and all, but then there's a trigger that makes him react. 

I thought Milan was top of his field as well, not that I had any idea what his "methods" are. My tv watching consists of NCIS and Bones..,lol The 100 when it is on....lol But I think no matter what the method, when you are dealing with an abused animal, and not just training or obedience that there is no handbook. An abused animal has it's own triggers and cause and effect and each case should be evaluated by the individual animal and what works. Patience and gentleness being/ foremost. Positive reinforcement a must.


Glad you see the difference in fear aggression and just aggression... just a tip though, fear aggression can be overcome but it is way more dangerous than just flat out aggression... the fear based is very unpredictable and explosive... if you used Milan's methods on him, I believe that would make it worse... and you are right, there is no handbook... and that's what I like about Temple's teachings... she just helps you understand them more so you can decide how best to handle the situation...
 
Thanks.
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If I didn't see the desire in his eyes or thought for one moment that the snapping was coming from anywhere besides pure fear, he wouldn't still be here. He's not vicious at all. It's obvious that he's reacting to triggers from past treatment. Almost like split personality. He wants to be loved and petted and all, but then there's a trigger that makes him react.

I thought Milan was top of his field as well, not that I had any idea what his "methods" are. My tv watching consists of NCIS and Bones..,lol The 100 when it is on....lol But I think no matter what the method, when you are dealing with an abused animal, and not just training or obedience that there is no handbook. An abused animal has it's own triggers and cause and effect and each case should be evaluated by the individual animal and what works. Patience and gentleness being/ foremost. Positive reinforcement a must.
If you want to see a TV show about positive reinforcement, check out "Heartland". It's a Canadian product that been on for several years here, based around a young lady (Amber Marshall) training horses, many of them abused. It's a "must watch" show in our house; has been for several years...highly recommend it.
 
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