She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

[napdognewfie]

Sounds like you are doing everything right on your side. It's up to the post office and then the buyer after that.

I wouldn't hesitate to hatch your eggs.

 

[Ravynscroft]

A question to all others who ship eggs - what's your policy on if the buyer has clear eggs that don't develop? I had a person interested in my eggs ask and I told them that if they were infertile I'd 100% refund them for them, but I couldn't guarantee hatch rate due to shipping and incubating techniques. Is that about what everyone else does? I know that shipping can be so hard on eggs that even a perfectly fertile egg that appears undamaged may not develop.

All the time I have two roosters to seven hens currently, fertility confirmed at 100%, and my last hatch on Friday had a 100% hatch rate - second hatch in a row that hatched 100%

Sounds great to me... some people will cry wolf no matter what you do... but if you confirmed the fertility, you're fine... I usually chalk clears up to shipping damage... the only time I questioned fertility was 2 shipments back to back from same seller of 75% clears...

 

[Pyxis]

Well I haven't actually sold to this person yet and they frequent this thread so I doubt there'll be any issues with crying wolf, luckily. I was just wondering what other people do about clears. I know I've gotten them before and if I cracked the egg and it was fertile I just chalked it up to bad shipping.

And yeesh, 75% clears? Sounds like someone had a bad rooster to hen ratio or needed to clip some feathers or something!

 

[Ravynscroft]

Well I haven't actually sold to this person yet and they frequent this thread so I doubt there'll be any issues with crying wolf, luckily. I was just wondering what other people do about clears. I know I've gotten them before and if I cracked the egg and it was fertile I just chalked it up to bad shipping.

And yeesh, 75% clears? Sounds like someone had a bad rooster to hen ratio or needed to clip some feathers or something!

Clears from shipping are part of the gamble we take having eggs shipped... I think you're fine with selling to anyone I've seen on this thread...

Yeah, 75%... twice... I think the birds were starting molt... couldn't really complain though... he sent double both times... ah, well... it is what it is...

 

[WalnutHill]

A question to all others who ship eggs - what's your policy on if the buyer has clear eggs that don't develop? I had a person interested in my eggs ask and I told them that if they were infertile I'd 100% refund them for them, but I couldn't guarantee hatch rate due to shipping and incubating techniques. Is that about what everyone else does? I know that shipping can be so hard on eggs that even a perfectly fertile egg that appears undamaged may not develop.

I don't ship yet, but I do sell hatching eggs.

I check fertility on all eggs I use for cooking. They are the same eggs I set, and the same I sell. It's rare to find an infertile.

If incubating, I candle at day 4 to check fertility. That's all I can ask of the chickens. The rest is up to me to get chicks delivered.

I don't charge a fortune for my hatching eggs. I price them at more than table eggs, because I gather every couple of hours and save only the best shape, cleanest, best shell quality eggs for hatching. They're not rare or valuable chickens, so it is what it is.

I like selling hatching eggs while I am setting, because then I can verify that the eggs are good. I don't give credit for eggs that don't develop, that mysteriously develop cracks on the way to the incubator, or for chicks that don't hatch.

I've bought quite a few hatching eggs and never got a hatchability warranty or felt it was the seller's responsibility. The quality of the packaging and the great communication with the sellers and the early signs of fertility showed the failure was on my end, in my case the crummy LG incubators I was using last year.

 

[sjturner79]

Yeah, all the shippers round here will do is replace if damaged, or lost in transit(via insurance) once eggs arrive at receiver in uncracked condition its up to them. I was happy enough with 1 out of 12 then 4 out of 18 hatched, it still came to about what it would have cost to buy at pol but with more fun for me.

 

[sjturner79]

Yeah, all the shippers round here will do is replace if damaged, or lost in transit(via insurance) once eggs arrive at receiver in uncracked condition its up to them. I was happy enough with 1 out of 12 then 4 out of 18 hatched, it still came to about what it would have cost to buy at pol but with more fun for me.

Of course 3 of the 4 from that group were roosters and the 4th died at about 3 months old.

 

[sjturner79]

I've got more than I can grow out this time set, but also no shipped eggs and good fertitlity showing in the eggs I've opened from them, so I will probably be selling some day old culls

 

[Ravynscroft]

Walnut really brought up great points... it's tough to be on either side of shipped eggs... but all we can do is uphold our own integrity value and carry on when others don't...

Most don't give a hatchability guarantee on shipped eggs, and when I go to seel to the public, my policy might change... but I also look at it from a case by case view... if someone tried really hard and contacts me without demands or a sense of blame, then I am more than happy to do what I can for another... I've had some do the same for me so I feel it is only right to pass that on...

But people who are obviosly just trying go get a freebie will get short shrift... that attitude rubs me wrong, lol...

I don't give out when fertility drops off, except when the other understood what was going on and agreed to it... and I messed up how I shipped one package and as soon as it works for both of us, I am making up for that...

All we can ever do is our best and keep going...

 

[BYC910]

A question to all others who ship eggs - what's your policy on if the buyer has clear eggs that don't develop? I had a person interested in my eggs ask and I told them that if they were infertile I'd 100% refund them for them, but I couldn't guarantee hatch rate due to shipping and incubating techniques. Is that about what everyone else does? I know that shipping can be so hard on eggs that even a perfectly fertile egg that appears undamaged may not develop.

I've bought a lot off ebay the norm is no guarantees other than they get there whole . all but one have sent extra . the ones that were the worst were the ones that were the closet . If you get better than a fifty % hatch rate on shipped eggs you've done well. So many people are like me go to TSC and grab a box off the shelf . no research at all . hey if a chicken can do it so can I. Surely I'm smarter than a chicken . book says fill the humidity slots half full with water . humidity should be 50/55% temp 99.5 degrees . the only thing that was right was don't trust the on board thermometer and hygrometer . check them against one you trust . heck of a time finding that one though . after killing three shipments of eggs I wised up and became half as smart as a chicken . and starting getting a fifty % hatch rate . the moral of the story is bad hatchers and bad incubators kill more eggs than usps . they however kill their fair share. A good shipper earns their money in a good attempt. most eggs I'm sure start the trip fertile maybe don't end up that way . If your sending extra and if the shipment is insured . and refunds for damaged shipments are via insurance. what else can you do without hurting your self. I'm not posting this as a shipper but as a buyer. so a 100% refund for infertile eggs is oh so fair .more than fair .even and more than almost anyone else would do except Ravyn that is who does to much .