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sideWing said:
It looks like this from most of the valley I live in, only the big buildings are really only in 5 sq miles. Lakes, mountains. It's quite beautiful here. I sure miss the mountains when I go back east. I like the cone technique and slitting the arteries to let the blood pump out of the meat. I think they call it Levitical (spelling?) style or something like that. It works well for me. I'm walking a few friends through the butcher process in a few weeks. They are not used to processing their own meat. I have been hunting since I was 13 so It's not a problem for me. I can see the pellet gun working pretty well.
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I never got to tell you that your view is absolutely stunning! Do you like hiking?
WVduckchick said:
Peas are very cute as babies. But I was warned at how LOUD they are as adults, so I'll pass lol. I assume you will hatch them and give them to him? I'm honestly surprised at how pretty my LOs are now. I'll post a couple pics tomorrow, too hard on the phone lol. But I think yours are beautiful too!!
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Yes, I will not be keeping peacocks! Lol. Just incubating for my neighbor/landlord. Honestly, I don't have high hopes for them. His peacocks are beautiful but the living conditions are very dirty and their nutrition consists of white bread only. The eggs are very dirty and at least 7 days old. Probably longer. But I don't mind keeping the incubator on and trying. It feeds my addiction. ;)
BYC910 said:
you know I thought a lot about what I had when I got Ameraucanas I heard a lot about Easter eggers and egg color and all that is a lot of crap and just that. go to the Ameraucana breeders ***. web site an look at the pictures that their members post . that is of course after you read the breed standard which does not include a single picture. I bet that each and every one of you will find a picture that looks just like one or more of you chickens. again posted by their members . So If I sound a little P.O.ed its because I am the reason my chickens are no good is because I didn't buy chickens from them . It took me years to over come the label that came with the horse business and how you could not trust horse trainer or trader roomers started by other horse trainers who would come to buy my horses and tell me they were not worth what I wanted for them and already had the horse sold for a higher price . the way I see it horse people don't have anything on large chicken breeders. If you had brought your chickens from them then they would be the greatest chickens in the world, and look just like what you have now . Do not base your opinion of you're chickens on what someone else tells you study the breed. pick the birds you like and breed from there. If you go to a pure breed chicken show hosted by a Breeders ***. the chances are the judges will be large breeders and members of the ***. and the winners will be likewise. remember believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see. btw did I tell you I'm old so I can say what I want to.
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This is a very informative post. I came across someone on Craigslist that was advertising birds from the breeder I got my eggs from. They used the breeders name as the selling point but when I started chatting with them they said they were displeased because the birds weren't SQ and had some traits that were DQs. I just want healthy pets!
WalnutHill said:
I am finally home. I visited a Rural King store for the first time today, in Decatur, IN. All I can say is WOW. It's everything TSC isn't; it's a real farm oriented superstore. I picked up a few things... After dinner, I did the breakout on the remaining turkey egg, none of which had pipped externally. The twin egg had two fully developed chicks that never pipped. Another of the very large eggs had a jumbo chick. One normal size egg had a jumbo chick that was still alive when broken out, but died shortly afterward. There was a pool of blood in the bottom of the shell, it must have nicked a blood vessel. The others were DOA, for a 6/16. The good thing is that there were zero shrink wraps, and two a little wet. So the humidity is close. There were no bloated chicks, but there were two that failed to absorb all the yolk. I may need to raise hatch temp a little, it dropped to 95 by the time I got home. I did end up with six, one poult has a leg or neurological issue (topples) but the others are great. There is one male Narragansett x BBB, one female Golden Narragansett x BBB, one Golden Narragansett and a couple of Silver Narragansett. I am back over 300 birds. What was I thinking?
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I'm so disappointed I missed the turkey hatch! I checked one minute and I didn't see action. Next time I checked; little turkeys running around!! Congrats on the hatch! Love the camera. No more action for me yet. Still day 22, thanks for asking! :)
 
WVduckchick said:
Really? Fart eggs? That's a new one on me.
I think I like Milk Duds better lol
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That's because you're cultured, just like me
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BYC910 said:
you know I thought a lot about what I had when I got Ameraucanas I heard a lot about Easter eggers and egg color and all that is a lot of crap and just that. go to the Ameraucana breeders ***. web site an look at the pictures that their members post . that is of course after you read the breed standard which does not include a single picture. I bet that each and every one of you will find a picture that looks just like one or more of you chickens. again posted by their members . So If I sound a little P.O.ed its because I am the reason my chickens are no good is because I didn't buy chickens from them . It took me years to over come the label that came with the horse business and how you could not trust horse trainer or trader roomers started by other horse trainers who would come to buy my horses and tell me they were not worth what I wanted for them and already had the horse sold for a higher price . the way I see it horse people don't have anything on large chicken breeders. If you had brought your chickens from them then they would be the greatest chickens in the world, and look just like what you have now . Do not base your opinion of you're chickens on what someone else tells you study the breed. pick the birds you like and breed from there. If you go to a pure breed chicken show hosted by a Breeders ***. the chances are the judges will be large breeders and members of the ***. and the winners will be likewise. remember believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see. btw did I tell you I'm old so I can say what I want to.
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I find the drama between the Ameraucana and the EE people to be a bit much, but I do understand it. I also think it's totally irresponsible, false advertising, and poor business practice for the hatcheries to present their EE chicks as Ameraucanas, or even worse, as Araucanas. The hatcheries really need to get a grip on this. But, in defense of the Ameraucana breeders: There are specific color patterns that are accepted as SOP. And they are all "supposed" to be blue egg layers. They are working to standardize the breed, both in color, conformation, and egg color. Compare that to EE gals, which can be any color of the rainbow, and can lay blue, green, or any shade of brown/tan, or even pinkish eggs. I originally set out to get Ameraucanas, but settled for EE when the Am breeder in my state couldn't get hatching eggs. The more I read, the more it seemed that Ams were unreliable layers, and took an incredibly long winter vacation. So, I ordered EE chicks, and have been delightfully happy with them. They lay large beautiful eggs. Their productivity is great. I had one gal lay consistently through her first winter, even without supplemental light. They are beautiful colored birds. I just love the fact that you can end up with a huge variation in color and feather patterns. I love the EE temperament. Really, there's very little not to love about EE. I'll take a flock of EE any day over Ams. However, I do understand the Am breeders stance regarding sticking to the SOP, and getting upset when EE are referred to as Ameraucanas.
 
lazy gardener said:
I find the drama between the Ameraucana and the EE people to be a bit much, but I do understand it. I also think it's totally irresponsible, false advertising, and poor business practice for the hatcheries to present their EE chicks as Ameraucanas, or even worse, as Araucanas. The hatcheries really need to get a grip on this. But, in defense of the Ameraucana breeders: There are specific color patterns that are accepted as SOP. And they are all "supposed" to be blue egg layers. They are working to standardize the breed, both in color, conformation, and egg color. Compare that to EE gals, which can be any color of the rainbow, and can lay blue, green, or any shade of brown/tan, or even pinkish eggs. I originally set out to get Ameraucanas, but settled for EE when the Am breeder in my state couldn't get hatching eggs. The more I read, the more it seemed that Ams were unreliable layers, and took an incredibly long winter vacation. So, I ordered EE chicks, and have been delightfully happy with them. They lay large beautiful eggs. Their productivity is great. I had one gal lay consistently through her first winter, even without supplemental light. They are beautiful colored birds. I just love the fact that you can end up with a huge variation in color and feather patterns. I love the EE temperament. Really, there's very little not to love about EE. I'll take a flock of EE any day over Ams. However, I do understand the Am breeders stance regarding sticking to the SOP, and getting upset when EE are referred to as Ameraucanas.
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I totally agree. At the time I thought I was buying Ameraucanas, and if I had known I would have sought out purebreds, but I absolutely love my EEs. Their egg laying is every bit as prolific as my hybrids, most of them are very calm, and I love the interesting color combos that pop out of the eggs. 99% of my customers just want colorful baskets, and EEs produce more colors than Ameraucanas, so it's all good for me
 

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