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[AmyPaperlady]

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They're just dark enough to be too dark for the lights I have available. I did water candle, and not a twitch. Most were pretty low floaters, too.

Thanks! She had a pretty good birthday, and the surprise party was a success!

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You remind me a lot of my uncles and cousins (age-wise, you'd be in the cousin category, since you're just a year older than me, and the age spread of Dad's siblings isn't that wide

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[rossfam06]

So my styro hatch resulted in ~60% live hatches...but since being put into the brooder, 8 have died. All failed to thrive. All had leg issues.

I hate young chicks, they are so uncaring. They sit on non-thriving chicks to get warmth...its a very pathetic site. Please appreciate my chicks are not my pets, they are for food or sale, so I live by the creed they thrive or they die. But it sure sucks to see so many die. Out of the 21 who hatched, I have 13 that are healthy...they still haven't figured out how to eat from a bowl yet (they are 4 days old), but at least they are drinking and very able to move about. Right now there are 4 who are simply lying on their sides, being flattened by everyone else...and slowly dieing. I know, I could do something with electrolytes, but honestly, these chicks won't open their mouth for me. I tried an egg yolk but all that seemed to do was actually seal their beaks closed...

All of these birds were intended to be meat, hens at 10 weeks, roos later...so their genetics doesn't matter...but all that have failed are also chicks that hatched on day 23...I ran this styro hatch as close to 100.5F as possible, low humidity but not below 25%, and it has sucked. No egg was older than 8 days when put into the bator, and all had been turned regularly before being set.

IMO, nobody should try a hatch in a stryo bator, it can't give you better than 50%. And seeing this chicks with all these leg/foot problems, ****. And fwiw, adding electrolytes to water only helps if they can stand and drink, and all that have died couldn't...they stood with their heads held up, never thinking to lower their beak into anything until they fell over, at which point their only goal was to stand again, not drink, or eat, or peck, or anything. This electrolyte idea may work for pets, but it doesn't work for chicks expected to work for themselves.

I didn't take pics of the foot/leg issues. I checked, its not anything that was pictured on BYC when you search for foot problems, or leg problems....but it did sound like what people say when they aren't thriving.

I so wish I was not inspired to keep the styro bator running. I wish, when I got my brinsea, people had been adamant that I move my styro eggs into it. Since I have not had a hatch in it, I am only presuming it will do so much better, but I know styro hatching sucks for me.

When they hatched did you show them by dipping their beaks into the water then then food? I always do that and my 9 babies are eating and drinking well.

I thought the same thing...lol

Sorry....I should have been more specific.

Hi, I was able to get 2 thermometers steady for two days. Put eggs in and now the one that came with incubator reads 100 and 2nd reads 106. What should I do? Still air incubator LG9300

Go with the one not attached to the incubator. The best way I found to adjust temps is to slide the plastic on top of the eggs and if you're looking down through the window keep it about inches from the actual heater and it should hold pretty steady. Mine always spikes at some point. I had 111.5 at one time ....however I had to keep sliding the plastic around and come back after an hour to make sure it had stabilized. I have the same make and model. I just had a 70% hatch rate which had been my best so far out of 5 hatches.

Return the incubator and get an lg9200 or any other brand.
Seriously can you check the calibration on the 2nd thermometer. It's more likely to be right. I haven't heard of anyone being happy with the 9300

Mines okay. You just have to play with it until you can figure out how it works....I think I an going to manually turn them this time. I love the fact the temp is cruising steady at 102 and no fluctuations.

Wow does that mean my eggs are ruined already

No they are not..... trust me.

 

[RubyNala97]

Hey, if being slapped makes you a key player, then I know someone who doesn't post much that SC forgot ;-)

Well, looks like shipped eggs plus broody hen just isn't a good combination for me. I know BCM are supposedly notoriously late hatchers, but day 21 was Tuesday, and there are no signs of anything happening. So it looks like one of the keep-the-birthday-girl-out-of-the-house activities will be seeing what chicks arrived at the feed store this morning (she just turned 12 about 7 and a half hours ago, and is expecting a belated birthday party--having a birthday right after fireworks selling season makes for difficult planning)

I'm sorry to hear about your eggs! I think shipped eggs would be hard under a broody if there were any air cell issues. The best luck I had was leaving them pointy end down and untouched for the first 5 days. Will you try again?

New one

Very nice! Again, I wish you lived closer!

They were shipped eggs so i am letting them settle for a few days. I will turn the auto turner on next week unless you guys think I should manual turn instead.

I like hand turning my eggs. But that's just because I don't have an auto-turner so I've never used one! But not turning at all is best in the beginning!

Hi, I was able to get 2 thermometers steady for two days. Put eggs in and now the one that came with incubator reads 100 and 2nd reads 106. What should I do? Still air incubator LG9300

I think someone already said it. But do you know how to calibrate the 2nd thermometer?

 

[RubyNala97]

So my styro hatch resulted in ~60% live hatches...but since being put into the brooder, 8 have died. All failed to thrive. All had leg issues.

I hate young chicks, they are so uncaring. They sit on non-thriving chicks to get warmth...its a very pathetic site. Please appreciate my chicks are not my pets, they are for food or sale, so I live by the creed they thrive or they die. But it sure sucks to see so many die. Out of the 21 who hatched, I have 13 that are healthy...they still haven't figured out how to eat from a bowl yet (they are 4 days old), but at least they are drinking and very able to move about. Right now there are 4 who are simply lying on their sides, being flattened by everyone else...and slowly dieing. I know, I could do something with electrolytes, but honestly, these chicks won't open their mouth for me. I tried an egg yolk but all that seemed to do was actually seal their beaks closed...

All of these birds were intended to be meat, hens at 10 weeks, roos later...so their genetics doesn't matter...but all that have failed are also chicks that hatched on day 23...I ran this styro hatch as close to 100.5F as possible, low humidity but not below 25%, and it has sucked. No egg was older than 8 days when put into the bator, and all had been turned regularly before being set.

IMO, nobody should try a hatch in a stryo bator, it can't give you better than 50%. And seeing this chicks with all these leg/foot problems, ****. And fwiw, adding electrolytes to water only helps if they can stand and drink, and all that have died couldn't...they stood with their heads held up, never thinking to lower their beak into anything until they fell over, at which point their only goal was to stand again, not drink, or eat, or peck, or anything. This electrolyte idea may work for pets, but it doesn't work for chicks expected to work for themselves.

I didn't take pics of the foot/leg issues. I checked, its not anything that was pictured on BYC when you search for foot problems, or leg problems....but it did sound like what people say when they aren't thriving.

I so wish I was not inspired to keep the styro bator running. I wish, when I got my brinsea, people had been adamant that I move my styro eggs into it. Since I have not had a hatch in it, I am only presuming it will do so much better, but I know styro hatching sucks for me.

I just had a chick that was very near dead. He couldn't walk or even sit on his legs for that matter. He was laying flat out. And I held the tip of his beak in electrolytes then tilted his head back and he would swallow. I got him to take about 4 good sips. Within 2 hrs he was up and walking. It may be financially better in the long run to help them thrive in the beginning rather then lose so many.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Hi, I was able to get 2 thermometers steady for two days. Put eggs in and now the one that came with incubator reads 100 and 2nd reads 106. What should I do? Still air incubator LG9300

The LG9300 are notorious for being off so do not trust the incubator gages until you've checked them against a known accurate thermometer. If the other thermomter hasn't been checked I wouldn't trust that either. The only way I'll trust a thermometer that hasn't been checked is if I have two that are reading the same. (And that still doesn't mean they are right...lol)I keep at least 2 thermometers in my incubator.

Return the incubator and get an lg9200 or any other brand.
Seriously can you check the calibration on the 2nd thermometer. It's more likely to be right. I haven't heard of anyone being happy with the 9300

I haven't heard of many that are really happy, though I know a handful that deal with it with fair success...lol

Wow does that mean my eggs are ruined already

It all depends. If they were truely at 106 for an extended period of time, they could be. Overheated will kill much faster than underheated. However, like I said, I wouldn't trust either so until you have a checked/calibrated thermometer and know fairly sure what the temps are, I would not give up on them.

I just had a chick that was very near dead. He couldn't walk or even sit on his legs for that matter. He was laying flat out. And I held the tip of his beak in electrolytes then tilted his head back and he would swallow. I got him to take about 4 good sips. Within 2 hrs he was up and walking. It may be financially better in the long run to help them thrive in the beginning rather then lose so many.

How is he doing. BTW?

 

[RubyNala97]

The LG9300 are notorious for being off so do not trust the incubator gages until you've checked them against a known accurate thermometer. If the other thermomter hasn't been checked I wouldn't trust that either. The only way I'll trust a thermometer that hasn't been checked is if I have two that are reading the same. (And that still doesn't mean they are right...lol)I keep at least 2 thermometers in my incubator.

I haven't heard of many that are really happy, though I know a handful that deal with it with fair success...lol

It all  depends. If they were truely at 106 for an extended period of time, they could be. Overheated will kill much faster than underheated. However, like I said, I wouldn't trust either so until you have a checked/calibrated thermometer and know fairly sure what the temps are, I would not give up on them. 

How is he doing. BTW?

He's doing great!! All are eating, drinking and getting silly & playful! I'm giving them sav-a-chick water for the first week and some fermented feed, plain Greek yogurt, and medicated chick starter. They seem happy. Thank you for asking!!

 

[LKM1991]

How cute they are. Is that a baby blanket? LOL

 

[LKM1991]

Easy on us old people! I prefer "experienced"

what she said!

 

[desiree210]

How can I calibrate the 2nd thermometer?

 

[rossfam06]

How can I calibrate the 2nd thermometer?

What kind of thermometer us it?