She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

[Ravynscroft]

Sorry yall, I went out to feed the chickens around 6ish and ended up finding 1 of my chickens that went missing over a month ago My husband, daughter and some went out in the field for some target practice and after a couple .22 LR rounds, Chicken Little started raising h*** in the brush where she has apparently been hiding for the last month and a half!! I guess she didn't like .22 shot flying past her!! Couldn't catch her though and it got dark so we'really going to flush her out tomorrow and grab her.

That's amazing!! Thought we lost one of our Calls today... crazy fliers, lol...

I became familiar with the differences in high altitude hatches in my attempt to help sidewing the first time. After he mentioned being in a higher elevation I went and looked up some articles on hatching in higher elevations. It was something I had never considered before and it changed the way I make suggestions when talking about "low humidity incubation methods".  

The important thing is that they are open for the actual hatch. Many people do keep vents in, some keep one in, some, like me don't bother with them unless it's temperarily, in order to boost humidity or temps.  The biggest reason SC and I wanted to do the thread was to validate the differences people have in methods and philosophies. To let people know that if they find something that is working for them that's what counts and that it's ok to not follow a norm-if it's working. 

Amen, Sista!!! Too many insist on saying, 'but it says to do this', and get way too stuck on it... or they insist their way is the only way... :/

Nothing yet but the eggs are rocking around on there own. When I candled yesterday I saw some shadows up above the air cell line I drew but it didn't look like an internal pip, it was more round like maybe the top of a head? Maybe they were getting ready to pip? It's been killing me not to be able to candle!

That shadow bulge is their back... they'll pip on opposite side from where that is happening...

at least its alive

x2!

 

[meganhundley]

at least its alive

exactly what I said, apparently she's a tough little thing. She's an EE hen I got from a friend a while back. I always thought she was still around cause I never found any feathers anywhere but after a couple weeks I gave up hope. She's completely wild now, doesn't like people at,all. She was really skittish around us when we got her so a month and a half with no human contact hasn't helped any. She must be doing pretty good on her own though, she's twice as big now as she was when she went missing

 

[meganhundley]

One thing about this thread is that we have proven that there are multiple methods that work, depending on individual circumstances. Granted, the whole idea behind hatching chickens is basically the same, but I believe we have to find what works in our own conditions. I actually went to look at my Brinsea, because I didn't think it even had any bottom vents. It does, but they are just 4 small holes (smaller than a pencil around) on the bottom of the bator, and they are not closeable. There's only one on the top, with an adjustable slider cover. I left it wide open my last hatch, and I was very happy with the outcome, so I will do the same next time. If Brinsea reads the study, and changes their design, then maybe I'll consider it.
I don't mean to knock surveys and such, I just think we all have to decide for ourselves what works for us. Tips, tricks, and gathering experience from others is wonderful, but it still comes down to my eggs, my way.
You have had many successful hatches, and have lots of fine birds to show for it, so I don't blame you for doing anything the way you want to do it.
Same here

. Feels like we are about to become aunts again!

I feel like I'm pregnant and a week past my due date!!!

 

[AmyPaperlady]

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Well, the theme was A Beautiful Life, but 'twas more from the angle of spiritual warfare, having wisdom, and avoiding complaining/negativity. SisQ Meadows is a great place! She's 12. I do have a photo showing our new feathers, but I didn't post that one 'cause it makes me look like I have a deformed forehead

 

[WVduckchick]

Sorry yall, I went out to feed the chickens around 6ish and ended up finding 1 of my chickens that went missing over a month ago My husband, daughter and some went out in the field for some target practice and after a couple .22 LR rounds, Chicken Little started raising h*** in the brush where she has apparently been hiding for the last month and a half!! I guess she didn't like .22 shot flying past her!! Couldn't catch her though and it got dark so we'really going to flush her out tomorrow and grab her.

Wow that's amazing! Hope you get her tomorrow.
I kept counting my girls today, and finding 7 of 8. Finally found all 8...at the same time I noticed a groundhog! Dang varmits!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Yes, thank you, I am actually aware of that concept, however, I am a person who tries to put more emphasis on experiences than on studies and what works for individuals. Supposedly I put enough "stress" on my chicks daily by candling and meddling, so they are good there.

I am seriously a "if it's not broke, don't fix it gal". Now if someone is having weak chicks being born or runts or post hatch deaths, then it would definitely be an idea to try and suggest. I suggest things that I have tried because I have either failed or succeeded with them. The hands off bunch (no names named...lol) may have better luck utilizing a method such as this since they don't stress the embryos enough. Now I do like to "test" the practices I consider "myths" just to shove it in the face of nay sayers and those that leave no room for individualism and insist that there is only one way to do it and their way is the only way. But, I generally give people that I help an idea of how others do it along with what I find that works, that way they can find their comfort level and pull out the elements that make sense to them. While I find studies interesting and not w/out merit, I prefer to follow what makes sense to me and what I've experienced.

WooHoo!! Almost there!

I became familiar with the differences in high altitude hatches in my attempt to help sidewing the first time. After he mentioned being in a higher elevation I went and looked up some articles on hatching in higher elevations. It was something I had never considered before and it changed the way I make suggestions when talking about "low humidity incubation methods".

The important thing is that they are open for the actual hatch. Many people do keep vents in, some keep one in, some, like me don't bother with them unless it's temperarily, in order to boost humidity or temps. The biggest reason SC and I wanted to do the thread was to validate the differences people have in methods and philosophies. To let people know that if they find something that is working for them that's what counts and that it's ok to not follow a norm-if it's working.

as far as that, not sure where I went wrong telling someone they are doing wrong??????? I was giving you information nothing more?????

There is much study on CO2 yes, and I posted about the red plugs in a styro bator, which keeping in mind the bators have plenty of other small ventilation holes in them, and the scale that we are incubating in them. I didnt mean to throw information at u Amy, I should have known u knew it , but when reading it sounded like you didnt answer and I had information to give trying to be helpful.
I didn't realize you were an expert, now I know and sorry for trying to help you when you dont need or want it. I also didnt know you had already had found that video link with him explaining to folk about incubation, its a very good video isnt it.
I obviously make you feel challenged when I comment on incubation, its not a secret, it is your thread so I wont post anymore for fear of anyone else feeling challenged, I give up.

I personally am a sponge for pertinent information with reasoning behind it, because of all the hearsay I need proof to guide my decisions because I cant afford trial and error, be it time or money. @ozexpat knows this well of me.

I respect Dr. Keith Bramwell, PhD, he is poultry extension specialist at the University of Arkansas. He has done a lot to teach about incubation at exhibits and such outside the University should you search him out.

With that, my apologies and it was nice to meet everyone on the thread. Very kind they are, and extremely funny too. Blessings to all.....

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Well, the theme was A Beautiful Life, but 'twas more from the angle of spiritual warfare, having wisdom, and avoiding complaining/negativity. SisQ Meadows is a great place! She's 12. I do have a photo showing our new feathers, but I didn't post that one 'cause it makes me look like I have a deformed forehead

Have you ever read Frank Peretti's "This Present Darkness" or "Piercing the Darkness"? Awesome spiritual warfare depictions. One of my favorite areas of study in religion. I took a Sunday School Unit on Spiritual Warefare-interesting stuff.

 

[WalnutHill]

Well, friends, here we go:
I set a clutch of 6 Red Sex-link eggs on 9/1, after scrapping the first clutch after 28 days with no results under my broody & having her quit setting the same day I put 6 fresh eggs under her. I fired up my old Hova-bator that I hadn't used for 20+ yrs; had a h--- of a time getting the finicky temp. control where I wanted it. Ultimately, it continued to fluctuate between 98+ & 100+, but I didn't mess with it further. Candled on day 14; tossed one clear. Candled a couple times after that; never saw any veins at all, even with a 50w bulb ...only decent air cells & dark masses that never showed any movement.

Went to lockdown on day 19 with 5 eggs with temp @ 99+ & rh running about 65%, expecting possibly a delayed hatch (if any hatch at all after the first attempt was a total bust).

Went to bed last night with one pip. Woke this morning with the same pip & nothing happening with the other four. Left for an all-day Crappie fishing trip on the C&O canal, returning about 3 hrs ago to one chick completely hatched & dry,nothing changed with the other four. An hour later I had 3 hatched.

That's where it stands at the moment.  [COLOR=800000]I guess even a blind squirrel finds an acorn occasionally![/COLOR]


[COLOR=800000]Are Red sex-link males born white, or does that come with age? All three hatchlings so far are colored...one a bit darker than the other 2, possibly 'cause it's not completely dry yet.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=000000]Now I'm headed back to catch up on the 90+ posts I missed while I was gone, while I watch the Packers game.[/COLOR]

RSL males are hatched white. Chicks hatched from RSL eggs are not color sexable. It does not pass down.

 

[meganhundley]

??? . What happened? Did I miss something??

 

[WVduckchick]

I think I remember Lazy's instructions...