She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

Have you ever read Frank Peretti's "This Present Darkness" or "Piercing the Darkness"? Awesome spiritual warfare depictions. One of my favorite areas of study in religion. I took a Sunday School Unit on Spiritual Warefare-interesting stuff.
I love Peretti. His use of symbolism is incredible. An other must read author is Brock and Boedie Thoene. Their stuff is incredible. One series they did was based on WWII, covering the international happenings based around the persecution and Hitler's advance. One of the books in that series is Vienna Prelude. Totally blew my socks off. An other modern day author is Karen ? (somebody help me out here!) She covers a lot of hot or controversial topics.

Did I tell you guys I bought Ameraucanas?
Love to hear about your Ams.

sorry you don't feel good kid. I hope you feel better soon. that goldenrod behind your house is probably part of what is causing you illness . if you can find one old fashioned stick inhaler . I get mine at the dollar store . saline sinus spray also dollar store . and the most important . raw unfiltered Honey from as close to where you live as you can get it start eating it . drink it in coffee or hot tea with lemon . what ever just do it year round.it will help. we're not going to have a frost for at least five weeks maybe more.so no relief for a while. you may not have an allergy just the massive amounts of pollen in the air by late afternoon can irritate sinus cavities so much they become inflamed. and then there's the chicken factor. use a dust mask when you clean coops. on to the next topic . the eggs are in the incubator put them in last night . if these aren't spelled right you can correct me. 8 CLBs 14 BCMs 7 Am. 5 Aracanaua 2 Sulmtuleras. and I hope I can get them to hatch .I'm beat read a few more post and off to bed .
I barter eggs to a family who lives about 2 miles away for honey and the use of their splitter every fall. Win/win situation. I started giving my GD a spoonful of honey every day, and she was able to get off nebs. I also have some of their wax, and plan to make some jewel weed/plantain salve with it... If I can ever find the time and the ingredients at the same time.

So do I deserve a parade if I can get 8 or 9 out of 12 shipped eggs to hatch that had horrible cells on my first try hatching??
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How many went into lock down???

Hello, Oz!
Welcome to the zoo!
Did Oz drop by? I missed it.

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It does, and it can. Differences in thinking isn't bad and it's what we need to help others. Seeing the different methods should help a person in figuring out how they want to proceed seeing as how not the same thing works for everyone. Studies don't take into account all the variables that are out there. For instances studies with chicken egg and incubation. If they do a study do they do it with a controlled group that is hands off and a control group that is more hands on? Do they do a group running humidity at 50% and a group that runs at 30%? Can these variables be covered in a study? Do they have any affect on the outcomes? Egg shell quality/porosity, ambient humidity, ect...there are so many variables that truely can not be controlled in studies. Like I said, I find studies very interesting and thought provoking. Usually they leave me with more questions than answers though and I prefer to go by experience.
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Most of the published studies are done in super environment controlled incubators, so... all conditions would be the same in the experimental vs. control group except for the particular test hypothesis. Sally has posted a ton of studies that have kicked my brain into overdrive about pushing limits, and being aware that there are so very many options available.

75% of how many you locked down for shipped, 85% for local eggs.
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Touche!
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Was in Amish country a couple of weeks ago, picked up a big bottle of honey... $85! Ouch! Needless to say, I put it back on the shelf! I love it, but I hate that its so expensive!
Honey is stupid expensive. May be on my bucket list for after retirement. I'd be making my own hive from the ground up.

I know 6.75 would be rounded up in the real world, but I think for parade purposes it should be rounded down to the full chick...lol
Those .75 rarely last beyond the first day, anyways! (sorry.
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Me too, lol...
I always aced the test, but never like writing out the homework... once I learned something I was done, lol... got bored quick...
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Nah, just make sure he DESERVES the
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... he won't give brownie points for slacking on a missed opportunity...
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Math was my easiest high school subject. I loved my math teacher. But, he was very soft spoken, had a mellow monotone voice, and math was just after lunch. So, I always fell asleep. My SIL who was in the same class said he once came and stood over my desk, watching me sleep, then he turned and spoke to the rest of the class... "I really should wake her up. But, she get's straight A's." He turned, and walked back to the black board, and continued on with his lesson plan. I was incredibly shy, and would have died a thousand deaths if he HAD woke me up!!!

So y'all think I should candle tomorrow and see what's going on? I can't remember who said it but when I asked earlier someone said candle at the end of day 22. Tomorrow around 1 starts day 23.
Megan, if you have any signs of life... go to your chair.

Sounds interesting! 12 is a fun age. It's cool watching them turn into independent individuals, but still keep that close contact.

We lost one last night. Had the whole family out there looking and we never found her. Hubbs was out there for a good 2 hours. Then, there she was this morning, waiting for me to open the gate.
CHICKENS!
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Is that the one about the dragon? I think I read that when I was 13 or so. I thought it was pretty good. The concept of the dragon was really cool to my young mind.
Then I guess I moved on to Grisham and Anne Rice.
Just finished Sir Terry Pratchett's last book. It was really good. I don't think I have ever cried that hard reading a stupid book about fake people. One of the main characters dies at the beginning, and it's really easy to see Terry in her and geeze, it really broke my heart. The world just isn't the same without him.
Anyone read the latest book by Harper Lee yet?

Well said!!!

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And this is why I love men. They don't need closure or explanations or apologies, just move on. lol

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We have a little black guy in the bunch who is always off to himself. Everyone else is running around, screaming and pecking and he's off in a corner trying to sleep. I like that guy.

Good luck on your hatch, 910!

@RavynFallen , one thing that worked wonders for me was putting a box fan in the bedroom with one of those super duper allergy/charcoal filters on it. Gets rid of all the dander, pollen and any smells emanating from the master bathroom. I need to do this again. Cheesecloth over the vents in your house is supposed to help, too.
Need to look up those authors. Need to remember the cheese cloth. Our house with forced hot air is super dusty, but we rarely use the oil heat.

GO HAWKS!!!!

Keep them buggers away from my girls!!!
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That was me.

The one with the dragon was "The Oath" I believe. (If not The Oath the The Prophet, but pretty sure it was the Oath.)
All his stuff was good.

Can ya put a pillow on top of the bator w/o messing up the settings?
It will most likely cause your temp to go up. I use plenty of blankets and pillows around my bator to level out temps. Snuggle it up at night, then pull the wraps back during the day. (wood heat) If you do cover bator, be sure to leave room for circulation at the vent(s).

Some one on here mention that crossing silkies to a white skin type might create a skin color sex link. Does anyone know where I would find the data for that?
I don't know if skin color is covered in the Sex linked information thread. Start by checking there. But, I did find it to be a good gender indicator in my summer hatches (only one chick that did not follow the leg color pattern, and I wonder if his daddy was not Jack. His sons may have been throwing some wild oats when the last hatch was fertilized. You can do a google search re: skin color and gender. Might find something. That's how I usually research stuff.

This is the correct answer


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Yes, it's my baby. I love throwing parades, but there is a reason the bar is high. If it were easy, we would be having parades every week, and they wouldn't be special any more. I would love as much as anyone to hatch one parade batch, then sit back and gloat for the rest of the year like some people
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, but I'm hatching every few weeks, so bad things are going to happen.
I don't think this batch is going to produce a parade either, but I am very happy with the results. I have 15 in the brooder this morning, so this is my best marans hatch yet. All of the large brown eggs with the small air cells hatched, so I learned a lot from this batch. The Davis eggs hatching points more towards the genetics of Tate's original flock as the source of my earlier issues. I won't be incubating those eggs any more. I have several cockerels coming up that hatched from those dark eggs, and 2 of them are developing nicely. I should have several more from this batch, too, so I'm hoping to get at least one rooster that can take Tate's place in the BCM pen. Tate will be given a flock of Ams next spring.
The incubator is still running, but there are no pips in the remaining light eggs. What I thought was a pip on #16 was a piece of shell from another egg. If there are no pips when I get home tonight, I will shut it down and probably won't be hatching any more until the Ams start laying some normal sized eggs, probably in December
So, no 2015 parade for me, but I finished the year with 30 marans chicks, which was my original goal, so I'm happy
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I'm delighted for you. That should give you plenty of breeder options.

Good morning all!
Let em kick u out
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Im glad the humidity thing came up last night, as far as the brinsea. Ive worried about that big ole thing and its one itty bitty adjustable vent hole... I told myself i open the bator enough [at once a day (rotating trays)] so i know they arent suffocating...

I wanted to ask, ive seen it discussed But, theres no one here who mists or cools their eggs? My AH is just too flipn high i did weights again, and ive decided im not happy with their % of weight loss. Air cell sizes look only slightly less than desireable, bu thats not very accurate, the math is... These are big ole pekin duck eggs, and were at around day 24!!!!!(lockdown friday!!!!) theyre percentages are around 10-12, and by friday i want to see 16-18%. Been lossing 3-6% each week. im worried theyre gna b sticky, incubated with too much himidity. But then, some people incubate at or above the 42% that i have been stuck at. It was 50s+ when it started, and had to have two weeks to dry out to 42... This thing is its own dehumidifier when compared to our air quality here. i wanna add rice for at least a day or two if im not gna mist and cool them. Im looking for any insight into this, and or i would love someones experience.
Have you gone to the duck thread? Hatching parameters may be a bit different, given the nature of the beast. It would stand to reason that Mama would go to the watering hole during her daily walk about, and slosh some water back to the nest in her feathers. But, then again, perhaps she sheds it all by the time she gets back. My best hatch was with eggs that had air cells too small due to humidity jumps all over the place before LD. So I hatched them upright in cartons.
 
Good morning! Please ignore my minor panic attack, the nerd in me has to see #s that say im on par, or else i start tripn... I lost my entire last hatch...

Hubby startd askn about the next set last night Hahahaha!!! I tol him how u, SC, say that pullets sell best at the beggin of spring
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I don't know about LA, but I would imagine it's the same down there. I could realistically hatch all year and sell pullets. The only reason I don't is I would have so many roosters to deal with. I can lose some with straight run sales in the spring, but 80% of my sales are pullets only. I say that this last set was my last of the year, but 4 months is a long time...
 
Im gonna hafta take pics of the air cells for yall

LG it was alot to quote but i appreciate your insight. I have read on the duck thread as well as incubatin by Amy and hatching by Sally. I try to keep myself armed with any info i can come accross. The McMurry site is where i read about misting and i think its exactly what you just relayed to me. How mama gets off and possibly wets the eggs daily. My hesitation is in my inexperience...
 
I knew it was coming when I saw you smack Walnut, so I was prepared!
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(it still hurt though!)

You did such an awesome parade for me, I just wanted you to get one too.
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I still think you might have a couple of late bloomers today...
I'm serious about the parade numbers, though. I don't want a parade for 15. The goal of 17 makes me think what I could do differently next time, and I think only dark eggs and hatching in cartons is in my future. I learned a lot from this batch, and I'm so glad. I have people waiting for me to start selling BCMs, so I need to have higher hatch rates to make it worthwhile to keep the incubator tied up for 3 weeks. Honestly, I hope my first parade comes from the first Am hatch
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Im gonna hafta take pics of the air cells for yall

LG it was alot to quote but i appreciate your insight. I have read on the duck thread as well as incubatin by Amy and hatching by Sally. I try to keep myself armed with any info i can come accross. The McMurry site is where i read about misting and i think its exactly what you just relayed to me. How mama gets off and possibly wets the eggs daily. My hesitation is in my inexperience...


There is some info on misting in Storye's Guide to Raising Ducks, which I have at home. I'll look this afternoon for you. I can't remember exactly what it said, but I'm thinking you only do it from day 10-25ish.
 
Again Thank You! Your the best! Really! I'll have a close eye on em, from outside the bator! ive been a good girl, leavin em alone, letn em develope without my constant prying eyes... Gotta train myself to stop meddlin so much before it gets out my hands!


I'm trying to train myself to stop meddling so much too!!! It's really hard!! Best of luck on this hatch! :fl
Megan, if you have any signs of life... go to your chair.

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   I still think you might have a couple of late bloomers today... 

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And this is why I love men. They don't need closure or explanations or apologies, just move on. lol
As opposed to what? Getting into a lengthy online debate, writing long, deep posts explaining my virtues, posting back and forth for hours until both sides get it all out, have a good
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It's a chicken website. Open a window,
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I'm serious about the parade numbers, though. I don't want a parade for 15. The goal of 17 makes me think what I could do differently next time, and I think only dark eggs and hatching in cartons is in my future. I learned a lot from this batch, and I'm so glad. I have people waiting for me to start selling BCMs, so I need to have higher hatch rates to make it worthwhile to keep the incubator tied up for 3 weeks. Honestly, I hope my first parade comes from the first Am hatch
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You just need a bigger incubator. Now that it's end of season, keep an eye out for used Sportsman on CL. It does not matter what version you get...you can buy the proportional thermostat for $90 that makes even old wafer driven GQF just as stable as a brand new 1502. And the deep plastic hatching basket is a big improvement over the stock wire basket on the older models. You could set 90 eggs a week and keep little penguins popping out all season.

I bought the proportional thermostat but the wafer-backed old solid state thermostat is still rock solid.
 
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