Should i keep these squabs and their parents?

[MROO]

I would refund her money and take @SweetTea&Chicks advise.

Although it may make you feel better, giving her money for them. means that you acknowledge her ownership of them. She gave them to you. They are your birds.
Some people just don't know how to "play nice." Sometimes, you need to just harden up and walk away ... for your own sanity and peace of mind.

 

[purslanegarden]

You can sell the birds to her, just consider the cost of all 4 birds.

We honestly don't know what people do with the birds that we sell them. In this case, you do, but I think that should not affect your choice to sell them or not, unless you want to say that you check up on every one of your birds that you sell.

 

[MROO]

So, did you make a decision? You don't have to share, if you don't want to, but it would be nice to know ...

 

[thinkyesi]

So she was becoming very irrational and rude. I asked to keep all 4 birds but she kept acting like the victim and i just couldnt deal with her. She knew my address so i thought i better just give them back before she goes extra crazy and comes to my home and does something. I decided to just give her the parents back. But i kept the babies, my heart wouldnt let me let her take those two sweet babies. She was so rude and mean to me about the whole thing.

 

[MROO]

So she was becoming very irrational and rude. I asked to keep all 4 birds but she kept acting like the victim and i just couldnt deal with her. She knew my address so i thought i better just give them back before she goes extra crazy and comes to my home and does something. I decided to just give her the parents back. But i kept the babies, my heart wouldnt let me let her take those two sweet babies. She was so rude and mean to me about the whole thing.

I totally understand! And you are absolutely right to keep those babies. They would not have survived without you. Consider them the cost of "room and board" for the parents.

And if you seriously suspect that the woman is a hoarder, she needs to be reported. Just as in suspected child abuse, you don't have to have proof, just a justifiable suspicion. The authorities will decide. If you want some distance, give it a week then do it anonymously, but DO it! It sounds like the lives of more than just two pigeons depend on it!

 

[RedRock1]

I am the 60 year old person that thankyesi is speaking of and I would like to set a few things straight here. I have text messages to prove all of this. My dementia has not set in that much yet...

We had a verbal and written (in texts)agreement that I could take back the pigeons, as they knew I really didn't want to let them go. I dropped them off Saturday around noon and asked to get them back Monday around noon. They had them two days. The lady told me she had fallen in love with them and didn't want to let them go. (all in texts i have)

I was encouraged to keep them by these guys. They even sent me photos of coops I could buy. I asked how they were doing every day and was told all were doing well. When I asked to get them, suddenly the parents were not feeding them and the woman said she had to hand feed them. i asked why she had not told me this. She told me it had just started that day.

Yes, the pigeons are indoors in a 6'x15' sunroom. The male was injured. I rescued him and I purchased the female from these people two months ago. I wanted to let them have babies, so asked them if they would be interested in the babies. They said yes. This was the only babies I plan for them to have.

When I was told the parents were supposedly now not feeding the babies, she asked if I could feed them every two hours. I told her I could not. I did not take the babies and would not in that situation. What she fails to mention is that I also gave them a $200 flight pen, which she told me needed to keep to house the babies. Well worth the price. Leaving the babies was horrible, but in their best interests.

As to hoarding, I live on an acre in a large home with two dogs and several cats, with my pigeons. I welcome anyone who wants to visit my home and see if I am hoarding. Come on out. I am just an animal lover.

These folks did not honor their agreement. i offered to pay them for their time and effort and was told no. Everything changed when I asked to come and get my guys. I can prove all of this. I made a huge mistake in this matter, I readily admit that, but by the time this person opened this post, I had already came and gone with them. I can prove that as well.

Sad times we live in.

 

[MROO]

Apologies due all the way around! None of us but those involved really know the details, and at this point don't need to, so hopefully everyone can move on and act in the best interests of the birds.
This just proved, once again, that my Gramma was right when she told us, "There is always more to a story than "both sides!" Sounds like a great deal of misunderstanding and nasty accusations on both sides, and a lesson to all of us about keeping our words sweet and tempers (and judgments) in check. Only time will tell.
Good Luck with your birds ... and your other critters, as well.

 

[RedRock1]

I would have thought the same thing, given the presentation. No worries.