Should I worm? Chicken hasn't laid eggs in about 4 months

[chickenbaguette]

Quite bad scaly leg

No, the petroleum jelly and stuff won't hurt her at all. And that turkey does not have scaly leg - you see all the scales are flat and smooth

I haven't opened the grit yet so if the oyster shells is better than grit, let me know and I can trade it out at the other TSC I go to tomorrow.

Oyster shells aren't used in place of grit, just added. They're for calcium and they dissolve, so they don't work the same as grit which stays in the gizzard. If yours has no oyster shell in it, add some eggshells crushed up and that will do fine

No, impacted crops don't kill chickens when they're treated. Give your chicken a drop of oil down the throat and massage it gently, twice a day. You can also use warm water. Feed small amounts yogurt and soft food. If it hasn't moved after three days she'll need an operation, but that's unlikely if you catch it quickly. http://www.poultry.allotment.org.uk/Chicken_a/chicken-crop/impacted-bound-crop.php

I really don't see how the active ingredient (Potassium Sorbate) would kill anything

It's usually potassium permanganate that's used, but it doesn't really matter. What you need to do is suffocate them and break the breeding cycle

For the scaly leg you can also sit her in a tub of warm water (make sure just her feet and legs get wet). Add a teeny bit of washing up liquid and take an old toothbrush to get all the dirt off her legs. Then if you have a smaller one brush under the scales to loosen the mites. Remember to wash all the soapy water off before you let her go. And also remember to NEVER try to pull of the scales.

Don't expect her scales to be completely normal at the end - they will look rough and damaged for some time (six months to a year).


Hows she doing after the treatment?​

 

[riverpie]

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Oyster shells aren't used in place of grit, just added. They're for calcium and they dissolve, so they don't work the same as grit which stays in the gizzard. If yours has no oyster shell in it, add some eggshells crushed up and that will do fine

No, impacted crops don't kill chickens when they're treated. Give your chicken a drop of oil down the throat and massage it gently, twice a day. You can also use warm water. Feed small amounts yogurt and soft food. If it hasn't moved after three days she'll need an operation, but that's unlikely if you catch it quickly. http://www.poultry.allotment.org.uk/Chicken_a/chicken-crop/impacted-bound-crop.php

I really don't see how the active ingredient (Potassium Sorbate) would kill anything

It's usually potassium permanganate that's used, but it doesn't really matter. What you need to do is suffocate them and break the breeding cycle

For the scaly leg you can also sit her in a tub of warm water (make sure just her feet and legs get wet). Add a teeny bit of washing up liquid and take an old toothbrush to get all the dirt off her legs. Then if you have a smaller one brush under the scales to loosen the mites. Remember to wash all the soapy water off before you let her go. And also remember to NEVER try to pull of the scales.

Don't expect her scales to be completely normal at the end - they will look rough and damaged for some time (six months to a year).


Hows she doing after the treatment?​

Her legs looked much better today. They were at least gray colored instead of white. I cleaned the coop today. I ended up using sevin spray and also the poulty protector and even used a paint brush to try and get everything in the crevices. Let it dry then put DE (diatomaceous earth) on then fresh pine shavings and straw. Then we put more vaseline on her legs again. She should feel better soon. I hate to ask but I do have a few more questions. I bought chick grit and today I saw poultry grit so I have a bag of each not opened yet. They are both Manna Pro brand. I'm guessing the poultry grit will be bigger so should I give her that one? It also says to give with course grain so do I mix with the food or scratch? I think you mentioned just putting it in a container by itself so I'm a little confused on how to give it. I'm also unsure of how much wormer to give. I was going to make something like oatmeal and mix it with that so I can make sure they both get it but it gives directions for 100 birds. Since I only have the 2 birds it's hard to figure out how much to give. I don't want to give to much. The rooster doesn't go in the coop and we have wild cats around here so I was just going to make a special concoction (probably oatmeal) for them to eat so I could make sure they both get the wormer. That way I can keep the cats away while they eat it. 1 ounce will treat 50 birds so I'm guessing a drop or two for 2 birds? Can you give to much wormer? I guess I could call the company and ask those questions.
I bought some of the layer crumbles (got Dumor brand) today too and fixed a bowl of it to keep in her coop. I put a rock in the bottom of the bowl so she wouldn't knock it over. I'll come up with something better soon but since I used Sevin spray today I didn't want her eating anything off the ground in the coop.
She pecked me but I felt her crop tonight too. It thought it felt like a large tumor. I'm guessing it's fine but I'll try and check it in the morning. She was easier to deal with tonight because she had just got in the nesting box before we pulled her out.
I wanted to thank you for your help. If you hadn't sent me those links, I'm not sure what would have happened in the future with my chickie. This link is the one that made me start looking up problems with the legs (shanks) as they put it.
http://poultrykeeper.com/chickens/health/inspecting-a-chicken-for-good-health.html
I still have a lot more to read up on. Thanks again for all your help!! Chickie thanks you too.

 

[BamaSilkies]

The other wormer that TSC has is in the cattle and horse section. The Ivermectine and the goat Safeguard are over where they have the cattle medicine locked up in a case. Panacur and Safeguard for horses is on an open shelf in the horse section. If you want the Valbazen then you might have to order it from jeffers.

 

[BamaSilkies]

I have Silkies bantams and I use the regular poultry grit and they do just fine. I think the other is for babies. If you keep doctoring her then she will be tame before you know it.

 

[riverpie]

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That's good to know. I was only looking in the poultry section. From what I read several people are happy using the Ivomec which I think is short for Ivermectine but I can't tell if they give it orally or if it soaks in to the skin like round-up does for dogs. I'm a little scared to use it on my chickie. It sounds like it is very strong. I bought the Wazine but I haven't opened it yet. I would like to try the Ivomec if it also will kill all the leg mites on her body in one dose and worm her too. I'm just scared to use it. I'm even scared to use the one for poultry. The most poison I've used around them was the Sevin spray on her coop today but I felt that was more of a benefit in the case of killing the leg mites and I let it dry good. I haven't wormed a chicken before and we were trying to figure the dosage tonight. We figured maybe a few drops between the 2 birds. I don't know what would happen yet if they get to much wormer. I'll looked up Jeffers. I've never heard of them before. Thanks for the link and also for your help. I really do appreciate it.

 

[BamaSilkies]

What type are you using the pour on or the injection?

 

[riverpie]

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It's suppose to go in their water but I will have to put in something like oatmeal to make sure they both get some. It's called Wazine 17. It seems it's mainly for roundworms and I don't really even know if she has that. I'm not sure what to do. I do know when I cleaned out her coop today I didn't notice clumps of poop like I used to but if roundworms in chickens looks the same as dogs, I haven't seen any of those.

 

[BamaSilkies]

Its one ounce to a gallon of water

 

[BamaSilkies]

You may not see them. If your seeing them in the poop they are real bad and sometimes its too late then. They keep the chickens from absorbing food. So if you dont keep them on a regular worming schedule your probably feeding worms bc they are in the ground, wild birds bring in all sorts of disgusting things.

 

[riverpie]

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If I put it in her water the rooster won't get any. He drinks from misc. watering containers that the cats also drink from around the house. I was just looking up wormers and it seems the Valbazen is the good choice for overall worming and Ivermectin is good for mites. Maybe I'll call my vet I use for my dogs tomorrow and see what they say. I haven't seen any worms but I apparently haven't been as observant as I should have been either. Maybe tomorrow I'll be able to watch her closely and see if she poops in front of me. Then maybe I will have an idea of what I'm dealing with before I treat her. I used to work for a vet many years ago so I know what tapeworms and roundworms look like but I haven't looked at her bottom yet to see if there are any tapeworms on her. I'm guessing it will look like the ones dogs get but those are caused from fleas. I've only seen one of of the wild cats with tapeworms a while back. I got some pills for it and haven't seen any since. It seems they would be hard to notice on a chicken. The roosters poop sometimes looks normal. He gets up on the handrail of the deck so his is obvious. Sometimes it looks awful too though so I figured it depended on what he ate.