Should parents need licences to be parents?

[rodriguezpoultry]

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I know you weren't addressing me directly, but i'd like to say this:

A child who is conceived has already entered the world. There are options beside abortion to make sure that the child could have a life free of maltreatment, abuse, etc. We can have no way of knowing what will happen in the future, and therefore can have no authority to determine who should and should not be born.

True, BUT, what if the person contacts the organization that has licensing? What if that person explains the situation and is guided through the process or is told about adoption? What if the parents that are prepared to take a child who have already undergone the courses and have their license adopt that child? That child faces a life of love with parents that are at least slightly prepared for what they are undertaking.

Nope! Wasn't asking you directly, but thought I'd quote you!

 

[beakkeeper]

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Aye, there's the rub. The "unfit" parent would have to have "fit" parents/guardians to help them, wouldn't they? (if I'm understanding you--sorry if i misinterpreted

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[rebelcowboysnb]

You do know that in many states having a disability makes you unfit for adoption. So if you required licensing for having kids how much you want to bet they would be ineligible.

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

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Given permission? She gave her own permission? I guess I don't understand that statement?


Sitting back and telling your children to simply not do it is not going to help stop unplanned pregnancies. Education as well as an open-minded discussion with your children is one way to assist them. In the end, it is not up to you...it's up to them to decide when and where and how it will take place. Why not teach them what they MAY need to know instead of teaching them to simply not know it?

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

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Aye, there's the rub. The "unfit" parent would have to have "fit" parents/guardians to help them, wouldn't they? (if I'm understanding you--sorry if i misinterpreted

)

Yes, but what if those "unfit" parents had "unfit" parents themselves? Crack-heads, weeders, etc. as parents. The licensing program would be able to at least educate the "unfit" parents before they begin the cycle all over again.

 

[beakkeeper]

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I know you weren't addressing me directly, but i'd like to say this:

A child who is conceived has already entered the world. There are options beside abortion to make sure that the child could have a life free of maltreatment, abuse, etc. We can have no way of knowing what will happen in the future, and therefore can have no authority to determine who should and should not be born.

True, BUT, what if the person contacts the organization that has licensing? What if that person explains the situation and is guided through the process or is told about adoption? What if the parents that are prepared to take a child who have already undergone the courses and have their license adopt that child? That child faces a life of love with parents that are at least slightly prepared for what they are undertaking.

What you've said above is equivalent to what we have now, I think. There are support groups/lifecare centers/family planning organizations that do such things like that...if that's what you're getting at. But that still leaves out the frightened, impoverished teen who can't go to her parents, is afraid to go to the government authority, maybe doesn't even know who the father of her child is... wouldn't she be too afraid of being punished to go to the very licensing agency that would penalize her for getting pregnant?

 

[PaulaJoAnne]

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Given permission? She gave her own permission? I guess I don't understand that statement?


Sitting back and telling your children to simply not do it is not going to help stop unplanned pregnancies. Education as well as an open-minded discussion with your children is one way to assist them. In the end, it is not up to you...it's up to them to decide when and where and how it will take place. Why not teach them what they MAY need to know instead of teaching them to simply not know it?

Who taught her that sex outside of marriage at her age was ok, as long as she felt ready?
I'm guessing her sex ed class. And her parents never felt it a good idea to train her properly.
They allowed to spend time outside of proper authority.....

Anyways, dh just got home, and I need to finish diiner stuff.
Thank you for being open to discuss this.

 

[beakkeeper]

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Aye, there's the rub. The "unfit" parent would have to have "fit" parents/guardians to help them, wouldn't they? (if I'm understanding you--sorry if i misinterpreted

)

Yes, but what if those "unfit" parents had "unfit" parents themselves? Crack-heads, weeders, etc. as parents. The licensing program would be able to at least educate the "unfit" parents before they begin the cycle all over again.

OK, i think i wasn't seeing all of what you said... that makes sense. Again, though, what would those parents be taught? How could a government agency possibly have the resources/information/insight to impart all the "parenting know-how" to the unfit parents who should have been learning this information their whole lives but were unfortunately deprived of fit parents?

 

[beakkeeper]

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Given permission? She gave her own permission? I guess I don't understand that statement?


Sitting back and telling your children to simply not do it is not going to help stop unplanned pregnancies. Education as well as an open-minded discussion with your children is one way to assist them. In the end, it is not up to you...it's up to them to decide when and where and how it will take place. Why not teach them what they MAY need to know instead of teaching them to simply not know it?

It won't fix everything, but it WILL help a little, I should think...Maybe that's the problem in and of itself...parents don't think they CAN have an influence on how their children grow up and raise their own families so they don't try.

 

[math ace]

I don't think what is taught in the home economics class comes even close to the the type of skills I am talking about.

The most I see taught in the classes is how much responsibility it takes to take care of a new born.

I am referring to a class that teaches the different theories of discipline.

A class that play acts common scenarios that occur in most parents lives and allows for opportunities to dicuss how to handle those situations before they occur.

A class that makes parents think about what they will do when a child is sick and the day care won't take them.

A class that makes a parent think about how they will handle a two year old that always says "NO".
A class that lets a parent know that MOST children will say "NO" even when they mean "yes" at this same time period.
A class that teaches strategies to dealing with children during this time - - -


So many decisions are made poorly because we don't have enough information to make good decisions or we don't have enough time to reflect on our actions before we have to act.