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wrathsfarm said:
For a diy'er. The star bits are a game changer. But they also sacrifice tensile strength over nails.Construction uses framing nails for strength and cost reduction over screws which are thinner.

Myself at home for a coop as an example... I frame all my floors,walls and roofs with 16d framers and then screw walls together using 3" t-25's. Just for ease of relocation in the future, or temporary supports.
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That sounds about right to me. Nails have the advantage over screws in some aspects of construction. From what I remember, the nails will bend but still hold for a long time compared to screws which do not bend but rather break off. I really don't quite understand the difference between tensile strength and shear strength. I looked it up and found the following explanation, but I still don't really understand it....

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Like I said, I usually ask the guys at the "Pro Deck" what I need for my build. Having said that, I think a "framing nailer" pretty much says what those nails are good for. I have never seen a framing screw gun, for example. Also, in my case working alone, I think the build would be easier and faster if I can hold the pallet in place with one hand and drive in the nails with the framing nailer with the other hand.
 
gtaus said:
That sounds about right to me. Nails have the advantage over screws in some aspects of construction. From what I remember, the nails will bend but still hold for a long time compared to screws which do not bend but rather break off. I really don't quite understand the difference between tensile strength and shear strength. I looked it up and found the following explanation, but I still don't really understand it....

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Like I said, I usually ask the guys at the "Pro Deck" what I need for my build. Having said that, I think a "framing nailer" pretty much says what those nails are good for. I have never seen a framing screw gun, for example. Also, in my case working alone, I think the build would be easier and faster if I can hold the pallet in place with one hand and drive in the nails with the framing nailer with the other hand.
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Think of it this way.. hammer in a nail half way, do the same with a screw. Now smack both of them to fold them over at a 90 degree angle. The nail will fold over, the screw will snap.
That's tensile strength..

Now fasten a piece of plywood to a board with a nail and a screw. Take a flat pry bar or chisel and hammer it in between the plywood and board making contact with the nail and screw. The screw will snap faster then the nail.
That's sheer strength....
 
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chickengr said:
how do you call roof structure (rafters, etc.)? isn't that skeleton?
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In traditional 'stick building' using a ridge beam. The sloped board connecting the beam to wall framing is a 'Rafter'.
The pre-fab 'skeleton' as you call it, which includes your rafter, ceiling joist, king posts (uprights) and diagonal webbing for load is called a 'Truss' .….or plural 'Trusses'
 

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