Lol good luck, that´s quite an impressive list. And it´s really cool that the pattern can show up so well, even on very light colours
gives me some hope to be able to convince my partner that cuckoos look good in every colour.
How do ´proper´ blue cuckoos look? I have a blue cuckoo daughter of the pictured roo and while I know she´s cuckoo (chick headspot and some striped feathers) she mainly looks like a pale solid blue
not much pattern to see. Is that because her father is just a Bb and her mother solid black? How does one work on a more prominent pattern?
As a basic start , if you are wanting the a. blues, not lavender... take a cuckoo roo and breed to a splash or blue bird, the offspring should come out blue cuckoo, if needed take the f1 offspring back to the cuckoo roo 1 more time and it should pur up and improve the barring. You can also take you chick there and breed her back to a cuckoo , that will help her offspring as well.
How old is your girl, sometimes it takes a little while for the pattern to show up as well..
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As a basic start , if you are wanting the a. blues, not lavender... take a cuckoo roo and breed to a splash or blue bird, the offspring should come out blue cuckoo, if needed take the f1 offspring back to the cuckoo roo 1 more time and it should pur up and improve the barring. You can also take you chick there and breed her back to a cuckoo , that will help her offspring as well.
How old is your girl, sometimes it takes a little while for the pattern to show up as well..
Will you tell us more colors to make?!?! I have chocolate and barred OE hatching so can I make barred chocolate? And does it have to be cuckoo to make blue cuckoos, because were can I find cuckoo OE? because I only have barred. 1 more question! LOL How do you make barred? I'm trying to make barred moderns. I know its possible because once I saw a picture of one.
Sure,
Take your chocolates to your barred/cuckoos, and you will get barred fawn/dun
The barring is a dominate trate and will go over most any color. Try to cross them to any color, at most you may have to take the offspring back one more time to the cuckoo, but by the second year tops, you'll have them.
As for the blues, or any for that matter, you can use barred or cuckoos, I think Ideal Hatchery has both, not sure of their quality, but pretty sure the have them both on O.E.'s
As for the how to MAKE barred's. Some one with more genetic experience than me will have to chime in on that one.
Might place a wanted post on here for them and just buy some if you have seen them already.
If making them is the only option, you may have to outcross them to a similar breed, then breed back to the moderns, 3-5 years minimum to "pure" them back to modern. It's a similar problem I am running into with the d'anver project, there's just a very limited amount of colors available in them to work with, so for some, I will have to out cross, it just takes years to get the breed back right, but in the end it's worth it. If you do go this route, just start with your absolute best moderns to start, and keep new blood moderns every time on the cross backs to avoid over inbreeding, or you will end up getting the color you wanted, but have them either sterile or very weak..
Hope that helped a bit.
Aubrey
It would be best to cross a male Barred OE with the Dun hens ( OEs are not really chocolate, the choc, gene is a sexlinked gene that is very rare in the US, the true colore for your OEs is called Dun, it breeds just like andalusian blue and the splash colore produced is called khaki). If you breed the Barred roo with Dun hens you will get about half and half, black barred and dun barred, If you breed Barred roo to khaki, you will get all dun barreds. If you use a dun roo on barred hens, you will get sexlinks and only the males will be barred and the femaled will be solid colored.
The blues would work the same way and you could use a barred instead of a cuckoo, it's basicly the same pattern but cuckoos feather out faster and that makes the barring blurred and that is what is called Cuckoo.
You would have to outcross with a Barred bird of a similar breed to get barring in another breed and breed for several years to get back to the correct type of the desired breed like Aubrey said.