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[Jungleexplorer]

the last three pics are wild wheaton or partridge. some call them gold wheatons. brown red hens are black with some brown or red leakage in the hackle.

I have about 15 pullets that look like the last three. Seems like most of the eggs I hatched this year turned out this color. I have about 18 cockerels (hatched out) that look identical to their father, which I believe is a BBR red but have been told by others to be a Hatch rooster. I drove 400 miles to buy him from a high school ag professor near Waco Texas. He did not tell me what he was and I did not ask because I was there to buy a Grey Stag. I saw him and he was so pretty I had to have him. I named him Pretty Boy and the picture I posted does not do him justice. I was very ignorant about Game characteristics and did not do a very good job of keeping Pretty Boy and the Grey Stag separated and the rest you can figure out on your own. Pretty Boy is here and the other is not. That was a very costly mistake on my part.

My goal this year was to breed Pretty Boy with the hens six hens I had and three more I traded some Jersey Giants for and hatch out 100 chicks and then cull all but the 20 best from them to do more targeted breeding next year. Unfortunately, a massive freak hail storm came out of nowhere when I was at a Bible study and killed over half of my pullets and cockerels. It carried 80 mph straight line winds and overturned my 10 by 12 coop and all of the protection for the young birds. I really don't know how any survived. Lost some of my best looking birds that day.

 

[catdaddyfro]

The first one is Wheaten. I only have three wheaten hens and one buttermilk hen. I really like the buttermilks the best, but have no idea how to produce them. I hatched out about a 100 chicks this year from all my Game hens trying to get some more buttermilks, and only got the brown, grey and black, colors. Of course, I only had one BBR stag to breed all my hens with so that might be why. I raised the Golden Duckwing rooster and the grey colored hens that I posted the pictures of from eggs I bought off ebay. The GD stag will be ready for next spring and I am building special breeding pens just for him, so I can control what hens he breeds with and see what they produce. I did not have separate pens this year and just put all of my 10 hens in with the one rooster.

I learned so much this year about breeding. One thing I did not know when I started, was that a hen can use the sperm for a single mating for up to six weeks. I ended up with some funky looking chickens because I did not not know I needed to leave my birds in isolation for two months (to be safe) before hatching the eggs. You out see what happens when you try to breed your Barred Cochin Bantams and did not know that one of your hens was bred by a standard White Leghorn rooster!

I also have several of the black Game hens with the brown necks, but I am not sure what they are called. In spite of all of the research I have done, I am not really certain of the exact names for all of the Game breeds and how to identify them.

 

[Jungleexplorer]

Jungleexplorer,
I believe that your buttermilk hen's father had the influence of her coloration. Grey cocks/stags(silver/golden duckwings) will produce silver and buttermilk
hens, either or both. With respect of course which hen they're mated with. But cocks/stags have a major impact on their daughters coloring as hens do their sons, especially in greys. You could breed her to grey and then maybe breed one of her sons back to her. Instead of searching around for a grey cock that produces buttermilk hens. It does seem as though buttermilk hens are a wheaton version of grey, they are comparable to some degree(just my thoughts).

Thanks for the info. Yeah I knew it was a long shot hoping I could breed her with my BBR rooster and get buttermilks, but as I said in my response to Cubalaya, I made a serious mistake and lost my Grey Stag. But I do have the Golden Duckwing that I raised this year and he might throw off some buttermilks if bred with the buttermilk hen. Unfortunately, the buttermilk hen in the picture was very old and she died of natural causes about a week ago. I knew she might not make it another year and I was desperate to get some offspring from her. But you would not believe how hard it is to find someone willing to let go of a nice Grey Stag here in Texas. I spent months looking and found the one and drove 400 miles to get him. I did some major self butt kicking when I lost him. She was such a beautiful hen, I just hate it that she is gone and I don't have any to replace her. I have one more like her, but not as pretty as she was.

Here is the one I still have.


She is not bad, but not even close to the other one.

 

[Jungleexplorer]

To keep getting the Golden duckwing color you will have to breed BBR males to grey hens if you keep breeding GD to greys(silver duckwings) you will keep dilluting the mix therefore ending up with more and more greys, you have to put the gold back in with the BBR(gold duckwing) male. You can't keep making golden duckwing from golden duckwing one reason is you never have a golden duckwing hen to bred to. They are BBR/partridge. It is a sex-link trait that creates Golden Duckwing males

Jeff

Sorry to sound dense, but I almost understand what you said. LOL! Let me see if I got it right. I am better with picture then words. so bare with me.

You said that if I breed this rooster,

with this hen
I will get a grey. Is this correct? Can you show me an example of what you are talking about?

But if I breed this this rooster
with this hen I might get a Golden Duckwing rooster. Did I understand right?


Let me ask you this. If I breed this rooster
with this hen is there any chance of getting some buttermilk hens?

Thanks

 

[catdaddyfro]

Sorry to sound dense, but I almost understand what you said. LOL! Let me see if I got it right. I am better with picture then words. so bare with me.

You said that if I breed this rooster,

with this hen
I will get a grey. Is this correct? Can you show me an example of what you are talking about?

But if I breed this this rooster
with this hen I might get a Golden Duckwing rooster. Did I understand right?


Let me ask you this. If I breed this rooster
with this hen is there any chance of getting some buttermilk hens?

Thanks

 

[Jungleexplorer]

theres a lot to be confused with the common names of reds and greys in the colors of games. Reds include Black breasted reds(gold/red duckwing pattern), or partridge patterned usually, now grey is where it gets a little dicey. Silver duckwings and golden duckwings are both called greys in the game-fowl world esp in the American games. the counterpart to a golden duckwing (in other words the females from the matings to get GD) the females take after the male side of the cross therefore are BBR/partridge patterned.

Hope I got you on the right track I know what or how it works don't know of I'm getting it acrros the ways I need to though LOL

I will be making GDs this coming hatching season to replace my live incubators with, as they are getting some age on them(+ many brooding sessions too) and I figure I need a few replacements for future times LOL

Jeff

If what you are saying is true, I am confused or I have been lied to. I ordered eggs off ebay from one seller and six of them hatch out. The eggs supposedly came from a single rooster and three hens. The six eggs that hatched are the GD rooster I posted pictures of and five grey hens that all look almost identical to this one . So my question is; what type of birds did this breeder breed to throw a GD rooster and this color of hens (not sure what to call them)?

 

[Cadjien_De_Louisiane]

Black Breasted-Red color


Partridge color hen - Refering to the color patern on the neck
feathers. gold with black stripes in center of each feather..
Good color partridge hen, Salmon breast, ligh grey fluff. such
as the one below.


Wheaten color hen- refuring to neck color.

Both hens, Partridge and Wheaton are sometimes called
BB Red hens because both are the correct color hens that
go with a BB Red rooster.. To come out with BB red stags.
Enless they carry silver color somewhere in there gene pool.
And throw a silver or gold duckwing every now and then.

 

[RingedTeal]

My hen is a Partridge but she looks red based.Any tips ?

 

[Cadjien_De_Louisiane]

Black Breasted-Golden Duckwing (aka Grey)- Bright straw color hackle feather and saddles,
saddles usually slightly a shade darker, Blue bar on wing, hence the name "duckwing". White tip on wing feather


Golden Duckwing (aka Grey hen)




Siver Duck wing rooster more of silver, white color instead of straw color also minus the gold bar above blue wing bar and the hens are simular to golden hens but way more silver on the backs.

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[Cadjien_De_Louisiane]

My hen is a Partridge but she looks red based.Any tips ?

That is a partridge hen, Partridge is the neck color and pattern, with red body