Show Off Your Games!

If i may be bluntnt, JE' As a hunter I am surprized you don't find them a quality meat bird....I don't mean quanity, which is what most people expound on, as in - jee my bird was 10 pounds! But more as in, sure tastes like pheasant to me. I've found one bird more than enough for two people. However mine are naturally lean, and those legs are bigger than most regular chickens. But i prefer dark meat anyway. I've found they cook better if handled gently, as in lightly browned and simmered...or long and slow as in crockpot. Roasted, I cover with foil until the last 15 minutes as they are lean. My birds totally free range so those tendons are very tough, but I keep sharp knives and certainly you can trim your own meal. The other thing I've found is they don't gorge themselves on feed, but rather forage for their own, they always walk away from the table after 5 minutes or so, not the case in most breeds, so in that respect, they are so cheap.
I get what you mean, most people seem hung up on the stygma of game birds...as difficult bloodthirsy critter, etc...and I don't believe they are good for the average Joe., mostly because I think they suffer from confinement. And no, you can't keep a ton of roosters in one yard...it gets messy. But you can't keep too many cocks of any breed together. You can't keep two stallions together, two bulls, two rams....on and on.
Colors are important, but, I would not eliminate a physically better cock to replace it with one just because I like his color better. (I can still keep the feathers) where I live, alot of people keep games, because they are easy keepers. And they can be tamed up as well as the family dog, making them great pets. ( I should say, family parrot) eventually that stygma of pit fighting will be replaced....as it is illegal...so hopefully you can even talk about them without being censored. As in I let my stags naturally decide who is the fittest, strongest, without being cruel about it...meaning, I step in and remove who is loosing before he gets hurt badly. Shoot, even the hens fight. All chickens do. Who is dominent is who I want to breed. The colors they throw are just a fascinating aspect. If i didn't have games, I would probably choose buckeyes, but I've heard they can be even worse.
I've never had a game cock try to flog me...never. sure I've had them bite me, if I snatch a wild one off his roost, but that is normal I would think. I guess I would like to convince you they are great dual purpose birds, but then, I eat squirrel too. Nice black walnut oil, little garlic...gently saute...yum!
 
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Anal or not there's is still a difference between gold duckwing, golden duckwing, and silver duckwing and if you are trying to mate up a for a certain color like the person is; it does matter, and you are right about it all being jumbled up(not important) you will have to do test matings to see what is what and who is who. There is are far bigger world out there than grey and red
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just not in gamefowl huh? in other words they are usually run of the mill, Hodge podge, muckley-duns, there's lots of idioms to describe the conglomerations of the color patterns. But when you are trying to be specific it helps to know a little something about colors and patterns and what they will/can produce. Just sayin'

I will end it with this as I can see I'm going into ''it just don't matter territory here"
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Jeff

Sorry, I forgot what site I was on for a minute...my bad, breed for any kind of made up colors you like...lol! BTW, I understand colors just fine...it just doesn't change the fact a golden duckwing is a dirty grey...lmao!
 
If i may be bluntnt, JE' As a hunter I am surprized you don't find them a quality meat bird....I don't mean quanity, which is what most people expound on, as in - jee my bird was 10 pounds! But more as in, sure tastes like pheasant to me. I've found one bird more than enough for two people. However mine are naturally lean, and those legs are bigger than most regular chickens. But i prefer dark meat anyway. I've found they cook better if handled gently, as in lightly browned and simmered...or long and slow as in crockpot. Roasted, I cover with foil until the last 15 minutes as they are lean. My birds totally free range so those tendons are very tough, but I keep sharp knives and certainly you can trim your own meal. The other thing I've found is they don't gorge themselves on feed, but rather forage for their own, they always walk away from the table after 5 minutes or so, not the case in most breeds, so in that respect, they are so cheap. I get what you mean, most people seem hung up on the stygma of game birds...as difficult bloodthirsy critter, etc...and I don't believe they are good for the average Joe., mostly because I think they suffer from confinement. And no, you can't keep a ton of roosters in one yard...it gets messy. But you can't keep too many cocks of any breed together. You can't keep two stallions together, two bulls, two rams....on and on. Colors are important, but, I would not eliminate a physically better cock to replace it with one just because I like his color better. (I can still keep the feathers) where I live, alot of people keep games, because they are easy keepers. And they can be tamed up as well as the family dog, making them great pets. ( I should say, family parrot) eventually that stygma of pit fighting will be replaced....as it is illegal...so hopefully you can even talk about them without being censored. As in I let my stags naturally decide who is the fittest, strongest, without being cruel about it...meaning, I step in and remove who is loosing before he gets hurt badly. Shoot, even the hens fight. All chickens do. Who is dominent is who I want to breed. The colors they throw are just a fascinating aspect. If i didn't have games, I would probably choose buckeyes, but I've heard they can be even worse. I've never had a game cock try to flog me...never. sure I've had them bite me, if I snatch a wild one off his roost, but that is normal I would think. I guess I would like to convince you they are great dual purpose birds, but then, I eat squirrel too. Nice black walnut oil, little garlic...gently saute...yum!

Believe me when I say that your opinion and experience reflect my own to a T, but I am not the only one that is eating them, if you know what I mean? I do not intend to get rid of my Games at all. I love them and will continue to try to breed the colors I want (just not shotgun breeding, like I did this year). The the main complaint I got about the ones I tried to eat was not only that the meat was dark, but that it was very slimy. Things like this do not bother me as I have eaten everything from monkeys to electric eels while living with native tribes in the Amazon (now you know where the name Jungle Explorer came from). As far as squirrel goes, I consider it a delicacy! Going to eat some for lunch in about 10 minutes. Squirrel is one of the best tasting animals I know aside from the Aguti-Paca. But if you want to know what the best tasting wild game bird is, let me tell you. It is the Tinamou. And they lay the pretties eggs you have ever seen. I use to raise them in the Amazon.

Tinamou eggs

 
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Wow some real pretty eggs. Slimy? Haha..personally I haven't noticed any of that. Maybe its the tendon sheath. Sorry bout that! Just not a picky eater myself, and have little tolerance for those who are., course I don't have to concern myself with that....question....what's for dinner? Food. :)
 
I have no clue when it comes to names of colors, but I would like to, if for no other reason, then to sound like I know what I am talking about. It seems like when I was a kid, I saw a game bird color chart, with pictures of all the different colors and their correct names. I was wondering if any one had access to a chart like this, and if so, if they could post it for us. I think that a lot of us would greatly benefit from it. Thank you so much!
 
Actually some of the old English game fowl sites on the web have color charts and such. Since games originated from old English there are similarities, but of course sop is nowhere near the same. I don't know how to paste and transfer that stuff and half the time I can't post pics...bad connection.
 
If you don't know the difference between gold duckwing and golden duckwing its evident that you don't know your colors just fine as they are different and it takes a gold duckwing(pattern of any breed in the world) crossed with a silver duckwing( of any breed in the world) (this is not a game fowl issue,it just happens to be the breed in question) to make golden duckwing, how hard is that to realize and quite frankly, I don't care what color you call them I was just trying to tell the fellow how to re-make a golden duckwing with what he has. and I'll say them same on showbird, coop or wherever else I choose, as I know I'm right. It a simple result of gold gene x silver gene cross. man! Not rocket science. there's all kind of slang names for just about everything in the world depending on who you are or where you come from.

As long as you know you are right that's all that matters...
 
If you don't know the difference between gold duckwing and golden duckwing its evident that you don't know your colors just fine as they are different and it takes a gold duckwing(pattern of any breed in the world) crossed with a silver duckwing( of any breed in the world) (this is not a game fowl issue,it just happens to be the breed in question) to make golden duckwing, how hard is that to realize and quite frankly, I don't care what color you call them I was just trying to tell the fellow how to re-make a golden duckwing with what he has. and I'll say them same on showbird, coop or wherever else I choose, as I know I'm right. It a simple result of gold gene x silver gene cross. man! Not rocket science. there's all kind of slang names for just about everything in the world depending on who you are or where you come from.

I don't know the difference. I have some Cubalaya cockerels that I was told were golden, but I really don't know what the differences between a Gold Duckwing and a Golden Duckwing is. Could you define the difference for me please?

Is this rooster a Gold or a Golden?


This one of my Cubalaya cockerels. What would you say it is?

Thanks
 
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