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Where should I look for relatively inexpensive gamefowl? I'm in east and middle TN, and I watch CL and LSN for ads, but all I'm wanting is a stag or brood cock to protect my hens. I don't really want a laying breed rooster to be a "watch dog", I'd rather have something with a significant amount of heat behind it.
 
I know the Shamos are dynamite for that sorta thing, 12+ #'s of mad muscle coming at a smaller sized dog may just turn it, especially once that thing has grown some heels. I've heard BOP stop swooping down, too! Other small predators shouldn't be a problem, cats and the such. But that's all during the day, once night hits, he's as vulnerable as any bird. Secure sleeping quarters will be needed.
Besides that, to your question, I'm not sure where you could get them cheap, they just aren't!
 
Where should I look for relatively inexpensive gamefowl? I'm in east and middle TN, and I watch CL and LSN for ads, but all I'm wanting is a stag or brood cock to protect my hens. I don't really want a laying breed rooster to be a "watch dog", I'd rather have something with a significant amount of heat behind it.
Auctions maybe, local members on gamefowl forums, flea markets, market bulletins.. Will they be true "games"? Possibly and possibly not. Drive around and you may run across some old gamefowl breeders you may could contact for some culls, most wouldn't mind letting some culls go cheap but then there are some that will still charge you a arm and a leg.

Even so though, I wouldn't expect too much out of them. In general, gamefowl are more protective towards animals than egg layers, AG especially will pretty commonly jump a dog or cat; but against a determined dog he'll lose pretty much every time. The Shamo's I have are big sissies, they can be so-so aggressive to other birds but when it comes to a dog or anything else getting after them they have no intention of defending themselves. And if I wanted a protector anyway, I would use AG. I'd worry more about a manfighting AG than I will a OG given that OG are slower, they are a lot easier to grab than say; a Ruble hatch that starts at your ankles, crawls up your arms, and then jumps off your head (ask my brother).

God bless,
Daniel.
 
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Auctions maybe, local members on gamefowl forums, flea markets, market bulletins.. Will they be true "games"? Possibly and possibly not. Drive around and you may run across some old gamefowl breeders you may could contact for some culls, most wouldn't mind letting some culls go cheap but then there are some that will still charge you a arm and a leg.

Even so though, I wouldn't expect too much out of them. In general, gamefowl are more protective towards animals than egg layers, AG especially will pretty commonly jump a dog or cat; but against a determined dog he'll lose pretty much every time. The Shamo's I have are big sissies, they can be so-so aggressive to other birds but when it comes to a dog or anything else getting after them they have no intention of defending themselves. And if I wanted a protector anyway, I would use AG. I'd worry more about a manfighting AG than I will a OG given that OG are slower, they are a lot easier to grab than say; a Ruble hatch that starts at your ankles, crawls up your arms, and then jumps off your head (ask my brother).

God bless,
Daniel.

Thanks, I'm still working on simply getting a rooster, permission from neighbors, etc.
 
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This is a question that I am continuing from another thread. Basically, I have three type of American Game (AG) females, but only one type of AG (BBRed) male. It took me a long time to find just one good AG rooster and I had to make a 600 mile round trip to get him. I am investigating the possibility of using him to breed all three type of AG females (BBRed, Wheaten, Brown Red) and what the results would be from the Wheaten and Brown Red. It has been established that crossing my BBRed male with the Wheaten female will most likely produce males that resemble BBReds and females the resemble Wheatens, and a cross between a BBRed male and a Brown Red female would produce offspring that would be closer to Brown Reds.

My question now is, is it possible to produce Brown Red and Wheaten males by breeding the male offspring of the above crosses, with a pure female of the same type as the mother (or the mother herself). For instance, say I cross my BBRed male with my Brown Red female and then breed their son, back to his mother. The question is, can it be done and how many generations would it take?
 
This is a question that I am continuing from another thread. Basically, I have three type of American Game (AG) females, but only one type of AG (BBRed) male. It took me a long time to find just one good AG rooster and I had to make a 600 mile round trip to get him. I am investigating the possibility of using him to breed all three type of AG females (BBRed, Wheaten, Brown Red) and what the results would be from the Wheaten and Brown Red. It has been established that crossing my BBRed male with the Wheaten female will most likely produce males that resemble BBReds and females the resemble Wheatens, and a cross between a BBRed male and a Brown Red female would produce offspring that would be closer to Brown Reds.

My question now is, is it possible to produce Brown Red and Wheaten males by breeding the male offspring of the above crosses, with a pure female of the same type as the mother (or the mother herself). For instance, say I cross my BBRed male with my Brown Red female and then breed their son, back to his mother. The question is, can it be done and how many generations would it take?

I am interested in Wheaten OEB so I read some and talked to a lot of people ....This is what I learned (was told) BBR over Wheaten will get good male birds if you breed the offspring you can develop a good male line but you can't produce good hens the BBR will haunt you forever.
 
I am interested in Wheaten OEB so I read some and talked to a lot of people ....This is what I learned (was told) BBR over Wheaten will get good male birds if you breed the offspring you can develop a good male line but you can't produce good hens the BBR will haunt you forever.

I have four good Wheaten hens so I am not worried about developing hens, what I need is a Wheaten rooster to go with my hens. Same thing for my Brown Reds. Where I live it is almost impossible to find good Gamefowl of any kind, and what you do find is garbage BBReds. I was extremely lucky to find the beautiful BBRed rooster I have, but it too half a year and cost too much to get him. I have never heard anyone even mention Wheaten or Brown Reds around here. It's all BBRed. Someone must have them, because I have the hens to prove it, but finding them is another problem. If I can make my own from what I have, I will be happy.
 

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