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[blaze208]

one last pic of Cole. So you can see his sides. What would he be called?

 

[blaze208]

I raised this one since he was a little chick. My dad sexed him an told me he was a boy. And something just appealed to me. I love him his name is blaze.he was my first official rooster. And BTW. Just letting you know. All my birds are molting that's why their tales are all bleh.

 

[blaze208]

Nice looking birds but unless u know their history u really won't know what they are. Color isn't relative to the breed. Well it is but it isn't. I'm gonna stop there I'm gunna confuse my self if I try to explain, centra needs to jump in he'll do a lot better splaining than me I'll just get a headache lol.

haha I see. I understand that like the names Kelso and such arrived from breeders with proven birds. Id love for somebody to explain! I am always hungry for new info bout birds!

 

[blaze208]

I bought this guy in a trio for 250 from a friend of my dads. He was actually gamed in mexico and won 2 fights. I fell in love with him on sight. I think he is three years old. His wing tips are white.the guy didn't speak hardly any English and I really got out of it was butcher and Kelso hatch?? He could of been lying but I really don't know

 

[childressj]

so this is my dominant rooster. Most of my games are free range except for the selective color breeders. I'm new to the breeds and names. And was wondering what this bird would be called!

I suggest you refer to my post #7285 on page 729. A surprising number of people think they can identify a cocks heritage by his color. This is due to people insisting on trying to associate some name with a combination of color characteristics. Gamecocks have been bred for over 5,000 years to win cockfights and color is a distant (and actually irrelevant) consideration and it is virtually impossible to identify a roosters heritage by his color. If cockers bred chickens like other people breed chickens for exhibition, it would be a totally different matter and identification by color and other physical characteristics would be easily possible. Cockers breed crosses of unrelated individuals for battle cocks and those crosses are generally the way people obtain a start. How can anyone image they will obtain chickens that look anything alike under those circumstances? Occasionally, there have been breeders who thought it interesting to breed a family with distinguishing characteristics to "breed true". An example is the Joe Redmond Grey. Few people may actually be breeding them pure but because:
1. They have unique color characteristics and
2. Were bred to breed true
they could be said to be an identifiable blood line or strain if no outside genetics are introduced.

This is NOT typical of gamefowl breeding. Examples of this kind of breeding with a unique color are quite rare. See also Flarry Eyed Grey.

Below: Joe Redmond Grey cock

Just speaking of color can be challenging. Consider the "wild type" hen color. Whether she is red or grey, this is the darker body color with salmon breast. It is referred to in Europe as "partridge" but generally speaking in the U.S. there is not an agreed upon name for the natural color of the gallus gallus (chicken) hen -geneticists often just refer to her color as "wild type". Another very common hen color among American games is "wheaten" which is the lighter brown colored hen; extremely light wheaten hens are said to be "buttermilk". An interesting fact is that several different hen colors (this applies to both red and grey equally-that is a different gene on a different chromosome) result in virtually identical blackbreasted duckwing cocks which means you need to see the hens to have some idea what color they are made of. Did you notice that wheaten hens often have yellow chicks and the "wild type" hens have "chipmunk" stripped chicks? I say "often" because we are not talking "pure" anything here and unless we know the cocks breeding he may be either wild type or wheaten color because both cocks look about the same (wheaten cocks are more likly to have near "clear" hackle-not much black in the hackle feathers.
(remember for this purpose we are ignoring whether they are reds or greys)


Here is a wheaten hen in the foreground and a wild type hen in the background. She has a salmon breast. These are grey hens but the same thing applies to red hens.

Here is a link to a grey broodpen where the salmon breasts are evident.

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Anyone can cause a family to breed true by line breeding. There is NO reason for cockers to do this as those breeding programs can be fraught with problems while unrelated crosses produce hybrid vigor. Just don't ask the cocker "what breed is that?"
Even he might say Sweater and Shorty cross but he knows he has never met either Sweater McGinnis or Shorty Bullock and only takes someone else's word that his fowl can be traced to those long gone successful breeders. And note that while you might eventually get them to breed 95% true, unless the family you create has some unusual identifying characteristic, someone down the road may have at least one which will look identical to all of yours.

 

[JShubin]

one last pic of Cole. So you can see his sides. What would he be called?

Maybe Polecat? Some sort of brown red. Like SDM said you cant know the specific breed unless you know the history. I am sure you mixed bred him, so you can only define him by his color and traits... feathering color, Leg Color, Comb type is usually how people define the bird... They also use Station... which is similar to height and referes to leg placement.. High station, medium station, etc.

 

[JShubin]

I raised this one since he was a little chick. My dad sexed him an told me he was a boy. And something just appealed to me. I love him his name is blaze.he was my first official rooster. And BTW. Just letting you know. All my birds are molting that's why their tales are all bleh.

Mine are molting too.. Is this the father of Cole?

 

[gallo4319]

Not a game fowl. Is the tail on this guy what you call a lobster tail? I thought I saw somebody talking about it on here?

lobster tail is mostly seeing in oriental. .. on long tail and short tail...

 

[sdm111]

yay I finally have my very own bald eagle ( hard to see though via phone camera )

 

[sdm111]

Get rid of the foxes and the fricken eagles show up!