Thanks pedenes. Sorry to hear about what happened to your broodcock as well. At least you know how I must feel. I'm still very sad about it, but it's time to move on I guess. Like I said earlier I just hope his 2 stags have some of his great features. We both know how valuable a Broodcock can be, and at times we tend to think they are not replacable. I recieved my pair from a very good source as well. Have you had any luck with breeding the stags to the mom yet? Let me know b/c that will be my only choice unless I decide to purchase another pricey Sweater Brood. Sweaters are just awsome in station and thats about as much as I think I'm allowed to say on this thread.