Show off your Peas!

When he first brings them home while they are contained is the time to really look them over. Mine had mites so bad I gave him a dose of pour on ivermec, but didn't reAlize it didn't kill the little suckers. I wished I had used Sevin there and then, but I was very lucky he was healthy other than that. sp even though I quarantined him, he still gave everyone mites when I let him out! I would have chanced stressing him to prevent MY birds getting them, but damage done! :/
 
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Fine then I'm just trying to think of ways that won't stress them out and having to catch them over and over can stress them out. Which would be counter productive. Stress will kill birds.

@Birdrain92 , I have mentioned before and even today on this very thread that you can effectively deliver Safeguard to peas by putting the correct amount on bread or other treats. You just make sure that each bird gets the correct amount on his or her pieces of bread. Herd them into different corners of your pen and make sure the bird eats it before you let them back, and make sure you have spare plain bread (or whatever treat your birds like) to help divert the other bird(s) in the pen. You DON'T have to catch them or stress them out.

@KsKingBee has written before about putting the Safeguard into the mash that he feeds the birds, and he effectively delivers the correct dose of wormer without catching them.

Corid goes into the water, so you don't have to catch birds to give it. But you need to use an effective dose. The amount needed in the water varies depending on the situation.

Yes, stress will kill birds. Flying into things and breaking necks will kill birds. Worms will kill birds. Coccidia will kill birds. Parasites will kill birds. Ineffective treatment will kill birds. Lack of preventative health care will kill birds. None of us want dead birds.

We need to listen to each other and try to learn from our own and from other people's mistakes. We need to learn to recognize what is good advice and what is foolish. We need to learn how to figure out when somebody knows what they are talking about, and when someone is just repeating stuff that isn't necessarily based on fact or research, and might just be wishful thinking. We need to break things down into different pieces and analyze them. What is an effective treatment? What is an effective way to deliver that treatment? What does the research say? What makes an "expert?" We need to sort out the wheat from the chaff.
 
I know pumpkin seeds work but not sure what parasites it kills same with Garlic. I've seen people saying Garlic works well with their sheep and pumpkin seeds with goats.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and venture that I am 98% certain that their sheep will also not be bitten by werewolves while they are on the preventative garlic. Since there's not as much history, I'm only going to say I'm 90% sure that the goats will also not be bitten by werewolves while eating the pumpkin seeds.

But it may depend on the phase of the moon.
 
@Birdrain92 , I have mentioned before and even today on this very thread that you can effectively deliver Safeguard to peas by putting the correct amount on bread or other treats. You just make sure that each bird gets the correct amount on his or her pieces of bread. Herd them into different corners of your pen and make sure the bird eats it before you let them back, and make sure you have spare plain bread (or whatever treat your birds like) to help divert the other bird(s) in the pen. You DON'T have to catch them or stress them out.

@KsKingBee has written before about putting the Safeguard into the mash that he feeds the birds, and he effectively delivers the correct dose of wormer without catching them.

Corid goes into the water, so you don't have to catch birds to give it. But you need to use an effective dose. The amount needed in the water varies depending on the situation.

Yes, stress will kill birds. Flying into things and breaking necks will kill birds. Worms will kill birds. Coccidia will kill birds. Parasites will kill birds. Ineffective treatment will kill birds. Lack of preventative health care will kill birds. None of us want dead birds.

We need to listen to each other and try to learn from our own and from other people's mistakes. We need to learn to recognize what is good advice and what is foolish. We need to learn how to figure out when somebody knows what they are talking about, and when someone is just repeating stuff that isn't necessarily based on fact or research, and might just be wishful thinking. We need to break things down into different pieces and analyze them. What is an effective treatment? What is an effective way to deliver that treatment? What does the research say? What makes an "expert?" We need to sort out the wheat from the chaff.
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Especially once you get more peas like you are planning on doing, you are right catching is not the easiest or safest way to do it, but as Garden Peas mentioned there are at least 3 different ways to worm your peas that involve zero catching.

I myself put safeguard in the water, which less people like to do since the medicine can settle to the bottom. I get a gallon jug and mix the medicine in with water, then I shake it up really good and put it in at least 3 different small dishes so that even if the medicine settles, the birds should still get some because the dishes are small. Then I still have some left over so I put out some crumbles and pour the safeguard water into the crumbles and mix it around so that the birds get wormed from the food and the water. I also tried soaking pieces of bread in the wormer water and feeding it to the peafowl. They liked the wet bread.

I think Zaz likes to put medicine on bread for them and I even think she or someone has mentioned putting it inside grapes. You would use the paste kind for that.

Oh and I want to add we are not trying to pick on you, we just want to make sure you are doing right by your birds.
 
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Well, what worried me was telling someone new, who has no way to tell what's correct and what's not, information that could have led that person to improperly care for HIS birds. That pretty much worried me...
 
When he first brings them home while they are contained is the time to really look them over. Mine had mites so bad I gave him a dose of pour on ivermec, but didn't reAlize it didn't kill the little suckers. I wished I had used Sevin there and then, but I was very lucky he was healthy other than that. sp even though I quarantined him, he still gave everyone mites when I let him out! I would have chanced stressing him to prevent MY birds getting them, but damage done!
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Probably also a good time to get a baseline weight on them.

-Kathy
 
The cornering for my adults would be a bad idea. My adults throw their food not sure why but they keep throwing their food in the air. Also when I move so close they become to paranoid especially when separating them it gets even worse. I'm hoping to get some that are "tame." The lady says that they are tame that they are willing to eat out of her hands so I will test it and if so I might buy some that are at breeding age or at least for Whites. BS I will try to get as close to Marshmallow's age. I understand that you guys aren't trying to pick on me I'm just saying it's something that I've heard I gave it to my peas though I haven't done a test which I might do for a Senior project. I'm thinking on Senior project ideas since it's only one more semester until I'm a senior so I might do that as a Senior project showing what can be used as wormers and if they are effective.
 
Hmmm... death from eating earthworms and the fact you mentioned something about her liver says to me that it was histomoniasis ((Blackhead).

-Kathy

I have the Necropsy papers with me and if it was histomoniasis they would list it. It was done by a vet. It says Enterocolitis, and Hepatitis.
 

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