Show off your Peas!

[Birdrain92]

If you haven't tested, you don't know.

@KsKingBee 's chick looked fine until the day before it died. By then, it was too late to save it with all the wormer in the world. The worms had terminally (fatally) damaged the insides of the chick. And he had been using Safeguard in the water... but not an effective dose.

By all means, supplement... but don't base "they are fine" on the birds not acting sick.

If you don't test, you don't know.

And a vet can do a tests and look for symptoms of something weird but the tests show negative and then the animal is dead in the morning. We had that with a calf so you can't always trust tests. By the looks of the photo that parasite looks like roundworm. I've had vets tell me that the disease I lost my peahen to is rare in game birds over a year old but my peahen was 10 months old. My peahen died from 2 unidentifiable internal parasites.

 

[jldward]

PS if you want the peas to enjoy the woods more set some roost up at the woods edge mine hang out here every day weather permitting. I just cut down some scrub oaks and secured them to the trees, they love it here.

I know it's bound to happen eventually, but really hoping they don't decide to jump the fence. My main concerns are theft & loose dogs that don't belong to me. Going outside the fence to herd them wouldn't be easy. I don't like the thought of going on other people's property, but of course will if I have to. If they do cross but stay close, hopefully some treats would bring them back. Hopefully I won't have to deal with that too soon. They already found the tractor under the shed one day it was raining, but over the weekend we had it parked outside & Patch liked perching atop the roll bar. Looked right regal up there lol.

 

[DylansMom]

And a vet can do a tests and look for symptoms of something weird but the tests show negative and then the animal is dead in the morning. We had that with a calf so you can't always trust tests. By the looks of the photo that parasite looks like roundworm. I've had vets tell me that the disease I lost my peahen to is rare in game birds over a year old but my peahen was 10 months old. My peahen died from 2 unidentifiable internal parasites.

Which hen are you referring to? You had 4 birds total and 2 of your hens died, so your losses were 50%. Meanwhile with 42 Peacocks all wormed using Safeguard(no matter the age) I had none die from unidentified internal parasites = 0% losses. Better safe than sorry and I agree with Kathy, don't count on pumpkin seeds or garlic worming anything effectively. I would have thought you would have learned something from that experience, but it doesn't look that way.

 

[MinxFox]

the greenhouse was built from scratch...it cost about four thousand for everything and has to vents up top that are controlled by a heat devices...when the building gets hot it expands therefore opening the trap door...which has wired on it so no birds get out...I would love to come to florida and help you build it....the material is a 85 percent light penetrated corregated fiberglass...the most expensive part about the whole greenhouse....understood about the harshness of growing things....ive grown this basically my whole life and have done demolition, construction, and landscaping since I was young...I have family in by Miami and cape corral....so if you need help im just a click away...when the snow stops and the grounds start unthawing then I will be moving them out into their pens until the following winter...and so on...I will not keep them in the greenhouses unless it is winter...its about 20 degrees warmer in there and they are out of the wind... its a 12 by 12 greenhouse...and there is another 12 by 12 greenhouse right next to it...

Sounds like a great greenhouse. I found some videos on youtube of a guy in Canada that built a tropical greenhouse for his parrots. When the plants finally filled in it was like a mini jungle. He mentioned using polygal for the clear plastic. I am really interested in landscaping and zoo exhibit designs and zoo landscaping. On another bird website this guy who designs zoo exhibits for a living made his own kaliji pheasant aviary. He made it on the side of his house and made these very realistic fake rocks that hid the indoor shelter for the birds. My Papa was always out in the barn building stuff, but he got alzheimer's when I was young then he died and so I never got to really learn much from him. I would have liked to learn a lot from him. My Dad never got to learn much from him either.

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Been getting random mating call here and today Master P and Pie are circling each other, the dance will begin soon, time to learn how to use the gopro

My boys haven't exactly fought yet, but Alto is wanting to chase Peep and today Peep had that bump on the back of his neck. I am wondering if I will see eggs earlier this year...

 

[Birdrain92]

Which hen are you referring to? You had 4 birds total and 2 of your hens died, so your losses were 50%. Meanwhile with 42 Peacocks all wormed using Safeguard(no matter the age) I had none die from unidentified internal parasites = 0% losses. Better safe than sorry and I agree with Kathy, don't count on pumpkin seeds or garlic worming anything effectively. I would have thought you would have learned something from that experience, but it doesn't look that way.

Jadea didn't die of internal parasites. I'm referring to Calypso. She's the one that ate the parasite and that was before I did any worming. Jadea I gave Safeguard the week before she died. I was afraid it was the same thing Calypso had but it wasn't. I haven't lost any of the 4 I have now. They died from two things that I didn't expect to be lethal. I never knew about egg bound until Jadea and never knew an earthworm could be fatal to a peahen.

 

[zazouse]

I put three pumpkins in with Colbolt and Sage. They ate 2 and a little bit of the other pumpkin. They seem fine I haven't done a test to see how many parasites are in them. They kept eating them like a kid with candy until 2 weeks then they slowed down on the third. Thora got Garlic powder in her feed, I gave her 3 cloves. She's doing fine as well. Marshmallow got Safeguard though.

Not small, you're Halloween Jack o' Lanterns size.

You do know it is the pumpkin seeds that are suppose to worm them right? pumpkins go for around 6.99 each and they are big but have very little seed most of the time, heck last year they were like gourds and my birds at the few seed and never ate any of the pumpkin, even the chickens would not eat them.
IMO safeguard is way cheaper than enough pumpkins to have enough seeds to worm just one bird.
pumpkin is good for them to eat when they will eat it.

to much garlic can harm a bird how much is to much

i don't know , how much to worm a bird

i do not know that either.
so if i am new to worming peas i think i would want to keep thing simple and know i am worming them with something that works for sure

just sayen

 

[casportpony]

Birdrain,
I think you have been just exceptionally lucky. I know they say pumpkin and garlic are natural wormers, I just don't think they are strong enough to do the job in most instances. They might help somewhat but if a bird gets an overload, its just not enough to do the trick.

He did lose one last year to cecal worms and blackhead, so not that lucky.

-Kathy

 

[DylansMom]

Jadea didn't die of internal parasites. I'm referring to Calypso. She's the one that ate the parasite and that was before I did any worming. Jadea I gave Safeguard the week before she died. I was afraid it was the same thing Calypso had but it wasn't. I haven't lost any of the 4 I have now. They died from two things that I didn't expect to be lethal. I never knew about egg bound until Jadea and never knew an earthworm could be fatal to a peahen.

This is exactly my point Birdrain, you didn't know that earthworms carry Black Head or that hens can become eggbound. You are young and you do not have very much experience with Peafowl, but you act like you know it all. Please tell us exactly what worms will garlic and pumpkin seeds kill? And exactly how much of each must a Peacock ingest to kill these worms? If you do not know the answers to these 2 simple questions then do not go around telling people they can worm their birds this way, because you have no idea if it is true. Just because 2 of your birds lived doesn't mean it works, 2 of them died so obviously something you were doing/not doing didn't work. On the other hand we know exactly what worms Safeguard will kill and exactly how much we need to give a Pea to kill those worms.

 

[DylansMom]

He did lose one last year to cecal worms and blackhead, so not that lucky.

-Kathy

X2, although the fact that All of them didn't die might indicate a little luck. .

 

[zazouse]

I know it's bound to happen eventually, but really hoping they don't decide to jump the fence. My main concerns are theft & loose dogs that don't belong to me. Going outside the fence to herd them wouldn't be easy. I don't like the thought of going on other people's property, but of course will if I have to. If they do cross but stay close, hopefully some treats would bring them back. Hopefully I won't have to deal with that too soon. They already found the tractor under the shed one day it was raining, but over the weekend we had it parked outside & Patch liked perching atop the roll bar. Looked right regal up there lol.

Yep all my birds get on the equipment here, it is a farm and these things happen on a farm