show quality speckled sussex ??

[snowbird]

Lisa and aveca-- great outlines--thanks for posting.

I see the same chest as you see Lisa-- as potentially meaty breasts.

Don, can you elaborate on the details of the structure in thebreasst/ keel, width area that allows for more muscling to be developed in that area. I have been looking more closely at the carcass of the cornishX at dinner time and see these three structures that will allow for more muscling--am I on the right track?

The best description I can give you without going into great detail is look on page #21-22 of the 2001 SOP. This will prove your theory that a picture is worth a thousand words.

 

[3riverschick]

Katherine Plummer illustration .
The Light Sussex: http://katherineplumer.com/closeups/poultry/SOP/LLightSussex.html
The Delaware: http://thedelclub.webstarts.com/standards_to_breed_by.html
Marans:
2013 Newnan, GA results. This is always the national Meet for Marans. Serious competition brings the best birds:
http://tinyurl.com/k9frg27
http://www.heavensentranch.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=121265344
Peggy Taylor's "Hope". This hen undefeated in her show career against 100's of other Black Copper Marans.

 

[aveca]

No one is upset. The APA has no control over what is dedicated to them. The APA does not endorse any of these books as being accurate. They may be accurate, but the APA has nothing to do with any of these publications. The APA Standard is the proper place to look for visual descriptions, as the illustrations follow the written shape for the breed. Schillings illustrations are accurate, but many of the other drawings and pics depict a bird that does not agree with the current APA descriptions. I like the old works, but just because they are old does not mean they are accurate/true.

Walt

there is no black orp perfection visual walt..i think we discussed this..plus several others..if it wasnt for someone recording their recipie would you ever know by looking that there was white dorking in the foundation of white orp or that it took breeder 5 years to get rid of the 5th toe?..thank god they left that knowlege.keeps people a bit grounded by not straying too far away from the recipie when correcting something...

 

[aveca]

Katherine Plummer illustration .
The Light Sussex: http://katherineplumer.com/closeups/poultry/SOP/LLightSussex.html
The Delaware: http://thedelclub.webstarts.com/standards_to_breed_by.html
Marans:
2013 Newnan, GA results. This is always the national Meet for Marans. Serious competition brings the best birds:
http://tinyurl.com/k9frg27
http://www.heavensentranch.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=121265344
Peggy Taylor's "Hope". This hen undefeated in her show career against 100's of other Black Copper Marans.

a really nice tour 3riverschick..i couldnt find the champion maran hen thou..

 

[aveca]

nevermind..i found her nice color

 

[3riverschick]

non

 

[fowlman01]

there is no black orp perfection visual walt..i think we discussed this..plus several others..if it wasnt for someone recording their recipie would you ever know by looking that there was white dorking in the foundation of white orp or that it took breeder 5 years to get rid of the 5th toe?..thank god they left that knowlege.keeps people a bit grounded by not straying too far away from the recipie when correcting something...

The shape is the same. If they had every color, the book would be huge. Use the shape from the buff as your guide. Try to get someone to sponsor the blacks and we will have Katherine do the illustrations.

w.

 

[aveca]

• the face and eye shape is entirely different always has been..but the body shape is the same..there are differences..they were all heading in the same direction but used entirely different birds to get there..it should have been done a long time ago.

 

[math ace]

• the face and eye shape is entirely different always has been..but the body shape is the same..there are differences..they were all heading in the same direction but used entirely different birds to get there..it should have been done a long time ago.

I am little confused with the discussion. This is the Show Quality SPECKLED SUSSEX thread... Are you guys talking about Sussex or Dorkings?
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[math ace]

Katherine Plummer illustration .
The Light Sussex: http://katherineplumer.com/closeups/poultry/SOP/LLightSussex.html
The Delaware: http://thedelclub.webstarts.com/standards_to_breed_by.html

Karen,

Is the picture of the hen on that Delaware link the same picture that is in the APA SOP?
I haven't had a chance to look yet....