show quality speckled sussex ??

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  1. math ace

    math ace Overrun With Chickens

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    I am reactivating this thread - - -


    I have three groups of young speckled sussex (ss) from two different places. The chicks are young 7 weeks - 3 months.
    I am going to invite some folks over to this thread to help me learn what to look for with speckled sussex.

    My birds may not be show quality, but I can still learn from them . . . . .

    My focus is still on breeding or finding show quality speckled sussex. . . .

    I hope some knowledgable people will join us and show us what we need to look for when deciding who to cull and who to keep in our flocks.

    If you have an interest in speckled sussex, specifically breeding show quality speckled sussex - - COME JOIN US!

    GENERAL SCALE OF POINTS FOR SHOWING . .. . .

    Total Possible SHAPE Color
    Symmetry 4 4

    Weight or Size 4 4

    Condition and Vigor 10 10

    Comb 5 5

    Beak 3 2 1

    Skull and Face 4 3 1

    Eyes 4 2 2

    Wattles 2 2

    Earlobes 4 2 2

    Neck 6 1 5

    Back 12 (WOW) 6 6

    Tail 8 4 4

    Wings 8 3 5

    Breast 10 5 5

    Body and Fluff 8 5 3

    Legs and Toes 8 5 3


    TOTAL 100 pts possible 63 for SHAPE 37 for COLOR


    STANDARDS - -

    DISQUALIFICATIONS:

    Yellow skin, shanks, or feet.
    Combs: Side Sprigs
    COMBS: Lopped Single Comb - - SLIGHTLY lopped comb in female at or near production is not penalized
    COMBS: Split combs
    TAIL - Split Tail
    Tail: Wry Tail
    Tail: Rumpless
    Tail: Squirrel tail
    Tail: twisted feathers
    Shanks: Bow leg
    Shanks: Knock Knee
    Toes: Web foot




    FAULTS
    Combs: TWISTED comb in front
    COMBS: Irregular serration of comb
    Combs: Thumb mark
    Wattles: Coarse Wrinkled Wattles
    Earlobs: Loosely- fitted lobes
    WEIGHT - - More than 1 pound over standard or any under standard
    Tail - Pinched
    TOES: Crooked toe
    FEATHERS - - FROSTING Fault Per Section


    Standard Of Perfection.....
    WEIGHTS: Hen 7 lbs, Pullet 6 lbs, Cock 9 lbs, Cockerel 7 1/2 lbs.

    COLOR - MALE
    Comb, Face, Wattles, and ear-lobes: Bright Red
    Beak: Horn
    Eyes: Reddish Bay
    Head: PLUMAGE, lustrous mahogany bay, EACH feather tipped with white, a NARROW black bar dividing the white from balance of feather.
    Neck: HACKLE, lustrous mahogany bay, each feather having a narrow black stripe in lower half of web, the black stripe decreasing in width near end of feather
    and then branching off to outer edge of each side of shaft near point. POINT OF FEATHER distinctly marked with diamond shaped white spangle.
    BACK and Saddle ..... SAME as Hackle
    Tail: Main tail feathers --- BLACK and WHITE
    Sickles, Coverts, and smaller coverts - - - Lustrous, greenish black tipped with white
    Wngs:
    Fronts and Bows: Lustrous mahogany bay each feather tipped with white, a narrow elongated V shaped black bar dividing white from balance of feather
    Coverts: Mahogany bay, each feather tipped with a large white spangle, a black bar dividing the white from balance of feather.
    Primaries - - black and white
    Secondaries - - outer web, bay edged with white
    inner web, black edged with white, each feather ending with a white spangle
    Breast:
    Mahogany bay, each feather tipped with white, a black bar dividing the white from balance of feather
    Body and fluff:
    BODY - SAME as BREAST
    FLUFF - Slaty Brown
    Legs and TOES:
    Lower Thighs - Same as BREAST.... except it is specified NARROW black bar
    Shanks and Toes - - Pinkish white

    UNDERCOLOR of all sections: SLATE, shading to salmon, the salmon shading to light gray at base.



    SHAPE of MALE

    Comb - - Single Comb... Medium in Size, set firmly on head, perfectly straight and upright, having five well defined points those in front and rear being
    smaller than those in the middle. Fine in texture. blade following curve of neck.

    Beak - - Stout, rather short, slightly curved
    Face - - Surface smooth, skin fine and soft in texture
    Eyes - - Large round prominent
    Wattles - - Medium in Size. equal in length, well rounded at lower edges
    Ear lobes - - medium in size, ovel, smooth
    Head - moderately large, broad, medium in length
    Neck - medium in length, slightly arched, having abundant hackle flowing well over shoulders.
    Back - - Long, Flat broad its entire length, sloping slightly to tail
    Saddle feathers - - of med length, abundant and filline well in frount of tail.
    Tail -- Of med length, well spread, - - > 45 degree above horizontal
    Main tail feathers - - Broad and overlapping
    Main sickle - - of medium length, well curved extending slightly beyond mail tail feathers.
    Lesser sickle and coverts - - of med length
    Wings - - Rather long, well folded, carried closely to body without dropping
    Points well covered with saddle feathers.
    Breast - - Broad, deep rounding nicely into body
    Body - Long Broad Deep
    Fluff - Moderately full, fitting closely to body
    Legs - - Legs set well apart straight when viewed from front.
    Lower Thighs - Stout Of Med Length
    Shanks - - med length, rather stout
    Toes - - four on each foot, of med length, straight, well spread.



    This is a 1920's Sewell print
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    Hope these will be useful in our discussions......

    Around page 19 of this thread. . .we start our discussion on the head with the following specifications

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  2. Gallusfarm

    Gallusfarm Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You might want to contact user RAREROO. He has some nice SS and is in GA.
     
  3. math ace

    math ace Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:Does Rareroo show his SS ? ?

    I am hoping to find someone that has shown their stock or gotten their stock from someone who did show them . . .

    Of course, what I am hoping for and what is going to happen may be two totally different things [​IMG]
     
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  4. RAREROO

    RAREROO Overrun With Chickens

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    No I have never shown anything before an sadly have never even been to a show before, but compared to what I've seen I would like to think this roo may have given some competion, unfortuately I lost him a few months ago but he was an awesome roo. [​IMG]

    I personally have never saw any Show Quality Speckled Sussex to even know what they would look like so if any of you has at least a picture of a SQ SS, I would love to see it. But I do think I have a some pretty decent birds and hope improve on them even more in the next couple years.
     
  5. pips&peeps

    pips&peeps There is no "I" in Ameraucana

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    Quote:PM'd you with Gary's info.

    If that doesn't work out, I have a guy near me that has been on Champion row several times with his.
     
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  6. RAREROO

    RAREROO Overrun With Chickens

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    pips&peeps :

    Quote:PM'd you with Gary's info.

    If that doesn't work out, I have a guy near me that has been on Champion row several times with his.

    I would like this contact info also if one of you would please PM it to me. Thanks​
     
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  7. math ace

    math ace Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:Sorry about your loss. I have seen very few pictures of show quality SS. I don't know if that is because not the many are shown or if there aren't that many trying to meet the standards.

    I do wish we could get some good pictures and discussion going about show quality SS. I have marans and the marans thread does a really good job of critiquing birds and teaching the standard. I've have learned so much on the that thread.

    Due to the lack of info on SS, I really want to start with good stock. If I purchase from some one with proven show quality, then they can help me keep the quality improving through the next generation breeder.
     
  8. math ace

    math ace Overrun With Chickens

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    Well, 5 months have gone by since I started my search and today I will post some pics of the stock I found. . .

    First some pictures of 1 day old speckled sussex

    The two chipmunk brown ones in the back are speckled sussex

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  9. math ace

    math ace Overrun With Chickens

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    NEXT - - WHAT GENDER IS IT ? ?
    I see this question all the time so let me post some pics at 7 weeks of age


    This is a cockerel

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    This is a pullet

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  10. shamoman

    shamoman Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I am also looking for some show quailty speckled sussex breeders.
     

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