show quality speckled sussex ??

[math ace]

Good evening to ya all. Been lurking here for awhile. I know that this thread is SQ SS but does anyone know what other breeds might be mixed in with the hatchery birds? I have 7 birds from TSC that I got at the end of Feb.Out of those I ended up with 2 cockerals SS. 4 SS pullets and 1 light brown leghorn.

I am not sure if I totally understand your question.

The birds from Hatcheries are pure bred birds. They tend to be poor examples of the breed because breeders are not carefully chosen each year. This does not mean that they are "mixed breed". For example, The Speckled Sussex tend to be much smaller than they once was. This is the result of breeders not selecting the biggest birds each year. Hatcheries have to give up some quality in order to produce the quantity that they ship each year. However, even the pinched tail, undersized, overly white, crow head speckled Sussex bird is still a pure breed bird. It may be a very bad example of the breed, but it is still a pure bred bad example of the breed.

I hope I answered your question.

 

[zinia8]

[COLOR=800080]I am not sure if I totally understand your question.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=800080]The birds from Hatcheries are pure bred birds.  They tend to be poor examples of the breed because breeders are not carefully chosen each year.   This does not  mean that they are "mixed breed".  For example,  The Speckled Sussex tend to be much smaller than they once was.  This is the result of breeders not selecting the biggest birds each year.   Hatcheries have to give up some quality in order to produce the quantity that they ship each year.  However, even the pinched tail,  undersized, overly white, crow head speckled Sussex bird is still a pure breed bird.  It may be a very bad example of the breed,  but it is still a pure bred bad example of the breed.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=800080]I hope I answered your question.[/COLOR]

Yes you did. I was wondering if the hatcheries introduced say brown leghorn into the mix to up egg production. Just trying to figure out where this light brown leghorn got into the mix. It was not a breed for sale at the time.
I am enjoying the SS and love their coloring.

 

[3riverschick]

You're welcome, Mathace.
My pleasure,
Karen

 

[math ace]

I was looking over and over again at the outlines of the Delaware and Sussex, and one thing I perceive is that the Sussex hen seems to have equal depth fore and aft, while the Delaware might have more aft due to the upward slope of the topline creating more space between legs and tail.

I am not ignoring you Pozees... I just don't understand the Fore and Aft

 

[fowlman01]

I am not ignoring you Pozees... I just don't understand the Fore and Aft

Fore=front.....aft=back. (nautical terms).

w.

 

[Mheusser]

pips&peeps :


PM'd you with Gary's info.

If that doesn't work out, I have a guy near me that has been on Champion row several times with his.

I would like this contact info also if one of you would please PM it to me. Thanks​

Hi there,
I breed Speckled Sussex and am hoping to start showing mine this fall. could I get Gary's info from you also?
Melanie

 

[EmSteele]

Just saving this thread!

 

[math ace]

I was outside this morning taking care of the birds... AND... I was thinking about showing birds in the future.

What I started wondering is HOW do the judges know an 11 month old cockerel from a 13 month old cock?

I believe in playing by the rules, but I know not everyone else believes this. I was wondering what would stop someone from entering their cock in the cockerel division.

Since this is the SHOW QUALITY THREAD... I thought this would be OK to discuss here.
Since the SS that I have seen are running on the small side, I am concerned that someone more concerned with the ribbon than the real competition might try to place an older, smaller cock into the cockerel division.... Same thing with the hens being placed in the pullet division.

 

[Arielle]

Lisa, now this is my opinion, there will always be ribbon chasers and cheaters and not saying one is the other; there are those that play by the rules, those that push the limits and those that out right cheat. I've heard a few stories from the dog shows and the sheep shows and well, if you want to win in a morgan saddle class, you wont without a $2k hat. IMO THis is when winning isn't everything, and working to improve your techiniques for showing and improving your stock is worth more than a top ribbon working year after year and getting in the ribbons must feel incredbly rewarding.

PS. When I showed horses, they were graded in such a manner that if there was no horse in the class that graded a first premium, then no first premie ribbon was handed out. A spade was a spade. THe second premium horse would be top of his class but it did NOT get him the orange ribbon. ( Dutch give orange = queen's colors)

Would love to hear what Walt has to say-- bet he has seen it all. WOnder what DOn has to say too.

 

[Peneliva]

Picked up a cute little speckled sussex she is 4 weeks old. We think pullet? Out of the 10 to choose from she was the smallest and only one who had a tail and the smallest comb and legs.