Showgirls considered full bred or mutt?

[Jessika]

Silkie and turken right?

 

[Jessika]

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My question, how do you register a 1/4 goat??

I don't worry about papers with my goats so I never looked into it......maybe like you do a 1/4 horse. LOLOLOL

 

[LilPeeps]

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Yes and no...silkie x turken is how you would go about starting with showgirls, and the offspring would technically be considered f1 showgirls, but it takes many more generations to get a showgirl with a nice silkie type.

 

[kstaven]

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My question, how do you register a 1/4 goat??

jess is quite correct in how most breeds of cattle work. The f1 is registerable as foundation for a new line and bred back to the 7/8th pure stock stage, then the progeny will be classed as pure blood.


Purebred in poultry is a very subjective term and we can argue until blue in the face whether the APA ABA standard breds are pure or not. But by the official APA ABA definition, if it meets the standard and breeds true to type is is considered for all intents and purposes purebred. That is the benchmark of the poultry world like it or not.


BTW there are genetic tests available for tracking genetic lineage through avi diagnostics and health gene. People in the parrot world use their services all the time and they will do poultry if you really want to invest that much money.

 

[Shared Acres]

This is an older thread, but I wanted people to know. We are having a small fair soon and I called the organizer who is in charge of poultry and asked him if they considered Showgirls purebred and not mutts, he said purebred.

 

[KYBOY]

On the topic of goats I had a reg. 100% pure breed Boer with 75% South African ancestry..Goat registry is different than most..Ive raised beagles(hunting/trial stock) for years and after my studs have been breed "X" ammount of times I have to send a swab into AKC to verify that its the same dog

I think its more than three litters a year from that hound or ten in a lifetime..I may be mistaken though..

 

[blackdotte]

Some breeds of animals have 'open' herd books and animals can be graded up to purebred. Some animals have 'closed' herd books and only progeny of registered animals can be included.
Many varieties/breeds of fowl can not, & do not 'breed true', but have an accepted description in the Standard, and even so are considered purebred.
David

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Frizzled cochins are recognized, but, as far as I know, that is the only breed where it is recognized. If you really wanted to, you could show any breed as a frizzle, but it would need to be entered as an AOV.

Frizzle is accepted in every breed, and can progress as far as any other bird, including Show Champion. The ABA made the change in April 2007, matching a change the APA had made a year or two previously.

The problem with showing sizzles as a variety of silkie rather than as a separate breed is that there is a general agreement among sizzle breeders that the feathering must be frizzled and not silkie. Not-silkie feathering would/should be a DQ if entered as a silkie variety.

Both the APA and ABA have a standard process for recognising new breeds and varieties, and it is not something that can be done on a short-termed whim. But, if one day a breed is unrecognised and the next day it is, by an approval vote of the Board of Directors, is the breed really any different?​