Showgirls considered full bred or mutt?
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Do they do genetic tests on other animals to prove that they are purebred before showing?
Bob
Yes and No. All other livestock have breed societies which maintain herd records. Registered Angus, as an example, must come from other registered animals. I'm using them as an example since there is a genetic test to prove if an unknown animal is one or not (not that it could be registered, but hey maybe someone wants to know).
As far as fairs go, though, animals just have to have "apparent breeding". I've seen very few requiring all entrants to be registered, with some exceptions in dairy goats.
The issue I have with your statement is " there are no breeds of chickens" Poultry have a short shelf life compared to other livestock. A useful chicken has a lifespan of maybe 2-3 years at best. Plus poultry is raised by the millions - how in the world are you going to pedigree that many birds for such a short time? So registering is impractical.
Many breeds of poultry are very pure and I will say that I have pedigree records on my birds that go back into the early 80's so to make a statement that I may have crossed a wolf with an ostrich to show a bird is a pretty wild statement.
Also keep in mind that the only true purebred poultry are Jungle Fowl- everything else is derived from them
Bob
Do they do genetic tests on other animals to prove that they are purebred before showing?
Bob
Yes and No. All other livestock have breed societies which maintain herd records. Registered Angus, as an example, must come from other registered animals. I'm using them as an example since there is a genetic test to prove if an unknown animal is one or not (not that it could be registered, but hey maybe someone wants to know).
As far as fairs go, though, animals just have to have "apparent breeding". I've seen very few requiring all entrants to be registered, with some exceptions in dairy goats.
The issue I have with your statement is " there are no breeds of chickens" Poultry have a short shelf life compared to other livestock. A useful chicken has a lifespan of maybe 2-3 years at best. Plus poultry is raised by the millions - how in the world are you going to pedigree that many birds for such a short time? So registering is impractical.
Many breeds of poultry are very pure and I will say that I have pedigree records on my birds that go back into the early 80's so to make a statement that I may have crossed a wolf with an ostrich to show a bird is a pretty wild statement.
Also keep in mind that the only true purebred poultry are Jungle Fowl- everything else is derived from them
Bob
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Our cochin/silkie mutt "Mystery" was our only cochin until we got "Fozzy". And they are both very sweet.
I only have 2 small coop/enclosures. So we'll play with frizzles for a while and do showgirls later. I can't give up my d'Uccles. They are my breeding project and sweeter even than the cochins.
But thank for being such a great enabler
Our cochin/silkie mutt "Mystery" was our only cochin until we got "Fozzy". And they are both very sweet.
I only have 2 small coop/enclosures. So we'll play with frizzles for a while and do showgirls later. I can't give up my d'Uccles. They are my breeding project and sweeter even than the cochins.
But thank for being such a great enabler
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If it is not from pure stock then you have a MUTT any way you color it, it is still a mutt, so unless you LIE, which I know there are no dishonest breeders out there, you can not get the MUTT registered and/or papered as PURE. So you have a mutt that looks an awful lot like a boxer, but when you breed it to PURE boxer and get a dog that looks a lot like a boxer, but is short like a corgi(a sometimes naturally tailess dog) how are you gonna explain that,
THE ANSWER "because the Mother/Father wasnt pure it was a MUTT.
If it is not from pure stock then you have a MUTT any way you color it, it is still a mutt, so unless you LIE, which I know there are no dishonest breeders out there, you can not get the MUTT registered and/or papered as PURE. So you have a mutt that looks an awful lot like a boxer, but when you breed it to PURE boxer and get a dog that looks a lot like a boxer, but is short like a corgi(a sometimes naturally tailess dog) how are you gonna explain that,
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Thanks for all the info!
Correct me if I am wrong...I was told this from a goat breeder....
Goats you can breed with a purebred and you get a 25% registrable purebred. Next generation if you breed it with another purebred of same type you get a 50% reg purebred. But it takes 2 more out crosses for you to get a purebred.
Goats you can breed with a purebred and you get a 25% registrable purebred. Next generation if you breed it with another purebred of same type you get a 50% reg purebred. But it takes 2 more out crosses for you to get a purebred.
Not to sound stupid but.....What is a showgirl? I mean I KNOW its a chicken but what type of chicken? Is it a large size or bantam size? What do they look like? I have seen these offered for sale locally in the paper(no pictures) but never knew what they were.
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My question, how do you register a 1/4 goat??
My question, how do you register a 1/4 goat??
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