SIck Chicken, appears to have classic signs off egg bound, without the egg bound...?

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I believe one of my chickens has this illness. I see there are injectable antibiotics and wanted to ask if there is:
a) a cost effective one that is readily available
b) is there long term risk of cross contamination
c) would it be best to euthanize the bird?
She's displayed the symptoms since last Friday but has appeared to get slightly better with Calcium, vitamins and warm soaks. I originally thought she was egg bound (she is at the age to start laying) and last night was the first time I heard rattles in her breathing.
Any advise would be great!

Mycoplasma synoviae

Synonyms: MS, infectious synovitis, synovitis, silent air sac

Species affected: chickens and turkeys.

Clinical signs: Birds infected with the synovitis form show lameness, followed by lethargy, reluctance to move, swollen joints, stilted gait, loss of weight, and formation of breast blisters. Birds infected with the respiratory form exhibit respiratory distress. Greenish diarrhea is common in dying birds (see Table 1). Clinically, the disease in indistinguishable from MG.

Transmission: MS is transmitted from infected breeder to progeny via the egg. Within a flock, MS is spread by direct contact with infected birds as well as through airborne particles over short distances.

Treatment: Recovery is slow for both respiratory and synovitis forms. Several antibiotics are variably effective. The most effective are tylosin, erthromycin, spectinomycin, lincomycin, and chlorotectracycline. These antibiotics can be given by injection while some can be administered in the feed or drinking water. These treatments are most effective when the antibiotics are injected.
Prevention: Eradication is the best and only sure control. Do not use breeder replacements from flocks that have had MS. The National Poultry Improvement Plan monitors for MS.
 
I believe one of my chickens has this illness. I see there are injectable antibiotics and wanted to ask if there is:
a) a cost effective one that is readily available
b) is there long term risk of cross contamination
c) would it be best to euthanize the bird?
She's displayed the symptoms since last Friday but has appeared to get slightly better with Calcium, vitamins and warm soaks. I originally thought she was egg bound (she is at the age to start laying) and last night was the first time I heard rattles in her breathing.
Any advise would be great!

Mycoplasma synoviae

Synonyms: MS, infectious synovitis, synovitis, silent air sac

Species affected: chickens and turkeys.

Clinical signs: Birds infected with the synovitis form show lameness, followed by lethargy, reluctance to move, swollen joints, stilted gait, loss of weight, and formation of breast blisters. Birds infected with the respiratory form exhibit respiratory distress. Greenish diarrhea is common in dying birds (see Table 1). Clinically, the disease in indistinguishable from MG.

Transmission: MS is transmitted from infected breeder to progeny via the egg. Within a flock, MS is spread by direct contact with infected birds as well as through airborne particles over short distances.

Treatment: Recovery is slow for both respiratory and synovitis forms. Several antibiotics are variably effective. The most effective are tylosin, erthromycin, spectinomycin, lincomycin, and chlorotectracycline. These antibiotics can be given by injection while some can be administered in the feed or drinking water. These treatments are most effective when the antibiotics are injected.
Prevention: Eradication is the best and only sure control. Do not use breeder replacements from flocks that have had MS. The National Poultry Improvement Plan monitors for MS.

How old is she?
Is her abdomen hard soft fluid filled?
What does her poop look like?
Was she vaccinated for Marek's?


There are several things that could cause her to look like she is egg bound, but no egg. Could be M.S. - does she have swollen hocks?
It could also be some internal laying - peritonitis/salpingitis, worms, cocci and on and on.



Your question about antibiotics you have them in your list (Treatment: Recovery is slow for both respiratory and synovitis forms. Several antibiotics are variably effective. The most effective are tylosin, erthromycin, spectinomycin, lincomycin, and chlorotectracycline.
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044

No one can tell you whether it is best to euthanize her. You may want to seek a vet's help.


http://www.chickenvet.co.uk/health-and-common-diseases/egg-laying-issues/index.aspx
http://scoopfromthecoop.nutrenaworld.com/tag/laying-issues/
http://www.hobbyfarms.com/livestock-and-pets/6-causes-of-chicken-swollen-abdomen.aspx
 
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How old is she?
Is her abdomen hard soft fluid filled?
What does her poop look like?
Was she vaccinated for Marek's?


There are several things that could cause her to look like she is egg bound, but no egg. Could be M.S. - does she have swollen hocks?
It could also be some internal laying - peritonitis/salpingitis, worms, cocci and on and on.



Your question about antibiotics you have them in your list (Treatment: Recovery is slow for both respiratory and synovitis forms. Several antibiotics are variably effective. The most effective are tylosin, erthromycin, spectinomycin, lincomycin, and chlorotectracycline.
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044

No one can tell you whether it is best to euthanize her. You may want to seek a vet's help.


http://www.chickenvet.co.uk/health-and-common-diseases/egg-laying-issues/index.aspx
http://scoopfromthecoop.nutrenaworld.com/tag/laying-issues/
http://www.hobbyfarms.com/livestock-and-pets/6-causes-of-chicken-swollen-abdomen.aspx
Thanks for your response Wyorp,
She is a black sex link at about 17-18 weeks old, I don't notice any fluid in her abdomen and her hocks don't seem swollen (but those are unfortunately judgement calls), I spend enough time with them that I would hope to notice.

She does have green, watery poop...

The other thing about this is she is displaying helicopter wings…?

While I do want to do what I can for her, at the end of the day she is a chicken and my concern MUST be for the rest of the flock. If this is going to be a long, drawn out, expensive and painful process that could possibly get my other chickens sick, it’s not doing anyone good to keep her around…She was one I was planning on butchering anyway as my sex links don’t have the best attitudes….
 
Thanks for your response Wyorp,
She is a black sex link at about 17-18 weeks old, I don't notice any fluid in her abdomen and her hocks don't seem swollen (but those are unfortunately judgement calls), I spend enough time with them that I would hope to notice.

She does have green, watery poop...

The other thing about this is she is displaying helicopter wings…?

While I do want to do what I can for her, at the end of the day she is a chicken and my concern MUST be for the rest of the flock. If this is going to be a long, drawn out, expensive and painful process that could possibly get my other chickens sick, it’s not doing anyone good to keep her around…She was one I was planning on butchering anyway as my sex links don’t have the best attitudes….
I' m sorry you are having to go through this.

Green watery poop - helicopter wings - Possibly Marek's instead of M.S. but you will not know unless you have a necropsy - sometime even that can be inconclusive, but most of the time it can give you a good idea of what you are dealing with.
I understand completely about your concern that it could be contagious, the cost and prolonging the inevitable is she is this sick. It's always a hard decision to make.
In the mean time if you haven't done so, separate her from the others so you can monitor her.

Either one is contagious and would make exposed and affected birds carriers for life. Each one has it's own unique symptoms, but some are very similar as well.

Here's some info on Marek's there are two videos as well, so see if she look more like that.

MAREKS INFO:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/the-great-big-giant-mareks-disease-faq
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/90/mareks-disease/

MAREK'S VIDEO
 
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