- May 13, 2011
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Been a lurker on the forums here a long time, I am finally posting because I need help determinging what is wrong with my chickens. We are hurting for cash and don't believe we can afford much let along a vet to come out... I am desperate for answers. So much of the stuff I find on the internet is all similar and cannot determine anything.
The ladies (isa browns) we have had since they were 3 weeks old. 7 of them. They grew up and began giving us tons of wonderful eggs. So much we didn't know what to do with them all! Something has happened to our poor ladies.
On 3/28/11 We purchased 2 pair "rare" chickens from a guy on craigslist. He apparently sells them like this all the time and had tons and tons of chickens stuffed into little wired cages. Kraienkoppe & Jungle Fowl. Each Rooster & Hen.
Beginning of May the Kraienkoppe Rooster appeared to have a "cold." That is exactly what my husband treated and thought it as. It was really cold that whole week and the door was open to their garage/coop and he was sitting on a roost for a long time catching the cold breeze. Never noticed the ladies get this at this point. Also this rooster and the Jungle Fowl Roo did not like each other. The JF was the dominate roo and even won over the heart of the Kraienkoppe's hen. My husband believed that the Kraienkoppe rooster lost his "mojo" and became depressed or bummed out. He began to get worse and would sit around, he could hardly crow and he would flick snot out of his nose with his feet. Not really understanding what was really going on we didn't separate him immediately. We did finally when it seemed much worse. By this time we were treating all birds with VetRX. I was thinking they had some respiratory thing going on.Only one day of being separated from everyone the Kraienkoppe roo was killed in his coop by a raccoon..
Not to long after egg production in the isa browns began to drop. They then began showing more symptoms of some respiratory thing. Continued to treat with VetRX giving each bird a special rub down with the stuff on their nose, under their wings, on their comb/waddles, over their eyes. Could physically hear raspy/gurgly in their sounds like you would if someone was sick. After a bit it seemed to get better rather than worse, except for we have only been getting 4 eggs total now since then. Every once in a while we will get a filth egg. Never looks like a good egg to keep. One of the 4 always looks weird also. I have found on the internet that they way it looks is possibly caused by infectious bronchitis, however they really don't seem to have quite all of the symptoms to that. The Jungle Fowl pair never seemed to show signs of any of this. The hen lays one small egg everyday, still does and never looks weird. We ended up getting rid of the JF Rooster as we believed he was somehow the cause of our isa browns not laying. As it seemed liked they were better. We believed they were not to thrilled with the aggressive, very loud male that was bugging them all the time.
It has been a few weeks since then, and now things have gotten worse for the ladies.
June 26, 2011, one of the isa browns did not come in the coop to roost for the night, she remained sitting puffed up outside near the fence. She appeared tired tried to keep her eyes open. I immediately picked her up and right away noticed her comb was flapped over to the side. These girls have large red combs that stand straight up so this was very apparent. Put her in a separate cage and removed her from the rest of the chickens. Put a bowl of water in their with some electrolytes, some food. She I don't believe ever touched it. Acted very tired, would not stand up, even sounded congested. Googled all night just can't find anything.
June 27, 2011 about 7pm right before I was going to treat her with some vetRX for the heck of it, herd some weird noises from where she was like flapping on a cage. Ran over there and found her dead with her head sticking through the cage
I examined her really well before she was buried. Her nose was wet, looked down her throat looking for a gapeworm or something and didn't seem much. Seemed like there was white goo in the throat but I don't know if its supposed to be there or not. No signs from bite marks of lice, ticks or fleas, Her feet looked normal, she had white pasty colored discharge coming from her butt, only after I pushed on it (I know gross but was looking for worms) She had stiffened up at this point so was hard to feel anything on her stomach.
Day after I took these pictures of the 6 as it looks like a new problem is going on or they are all about to deteriorate and drop also. Two have really bad lesions on their feet. One of them limps but doesn't appear to be the one with the lesions. All of a sudden notice dark spots on their combs. All sound like they got crap in their nose and throat, they are all shaking their heads all the time almost as if to shake it out. We think the foot problem could be from the Jungle Fowl Hen. She is aggressive and my husband sees her peck the isas feet often, and hard. She is separated now so she can do no further damage. We would like to sell her or eat her, but are unsure if she is sick also, though she never shows signs, and nether does the Kraienkoppe hen we still have also. She keeps to herself mostly but is active and lays a nice egg everyday. She also seems to want to sit on them even tho the roos are gone.
As of today all isa browns have obvious mucus or something, can hear it in their breathing. They Open mouth breath often, sometimes not so often. Usually mostly at night on their roost. Also sit with wings open a bit sometimes at night. A few have "poppy butt" and sometimes will see one having a "pulsing butt" at night. I've looked these things up and it seems like they mean something. The black spots seemed to be going away possibly being pecked by the Jungle Fowl?
Here are some pictures of what they look like right now. Also a photo of some of the bad eggs.
http://thefreerangechicken.com/gallery/chickens
The ladies (isa browns) we have had since they were 3 weeks old. 7 of them. They grew up and began giving us tons of wonderful eggs. So much we didn't know what to do with them all! Something has happened to our poor ladies.
On 3/28/11 We purchased 2 pair "rare" chickens from a guy on craigslist. He apparently sells them like this all the time and had tons and tons of chickens stuffed into little wired cages. Kraienkoppe & Jungle Fowl. Each Rooster & Hen.
Beginning of May the Kraienkoppe Rooster appeared to have a "cold." That is exactly what my husband treated and thought it as. It was really cold that whole week and the door was open to their garage/coop and he was sitting on a roost for a long time catching the cold breeze. Never noticed the ladies get this at this point. Also this rooster and the Jungle Fowl Roo did not like each other. The JF was the dominate roo and even won over the heart of the Kraienkoppe's hen. My husband believed that the Kraienkoppe rooster lost his "mojo" and became depressed or bummed out. He began to get worse and would sit around, he could hardly crow and he would flick snot out of his nose with his feet. Not really understanding what was really going on we didn't separate him immediately. We did finally when it seemed much worse. By this time we were treating all birds with VetRX. I was thinking they had some respiratory thing going on.Only one day of being separated from everyone the Kraienkoppe roo was killed in his coop by a raccoon..
Not to long after egg production in the isa browns began to drop. They then began showing more symptoms of some respiratory thing. Continued to treat with VetRX giving each bird a special rub down with the stuff on their nose, under their wings, on their comb/waddles, over their eyes. Could physically hear raspy/gurgly in their sounds like you would if someone was sick. After a bit it seemed to get better rather than worse, except for we have only been getting 4 eggs total now since then. Every once in a while we will get a filth egg. Never looks like a good egg to keep. One of the 4 always looks weird also. I have found on the internet that they way it looks is possibly caused by infectious bronchitis, however they really don't seem to have quite all of the symptoms to that. The Jungle Fowl pair never seemed to show signs of any of this. The hen lays one small egg everyday, still does and never looks weird. We ended up getting rid of the JF Rooster as we believed he was somehow the cause of our isa browns not laying. As it seemed liked they were better. We believed they were not to thrilled with the aggressive, very loud male that was bugging them all the time.
It has been a few weeks since then, and now things have gotten worse for the ladies.
June 26, 2011, one of the isa browns did not come in the coop to roost for the night, she remained sitting puffed up outside near the fence. She appeared tired tried to keep her eyes open. I immediately picked her up and right away noticed her comb was flapped over to the side. These girls have large red combs that stand straight up so this was very apparent. Put her in a separate cage and removed her from the rest of the chickens. Put a bowl of water in their with some electrolytes, some food. She I don't believe ever touched it. Acted very tired, would not stand up, even sounded congested. Googled all night just can't find anything.
June 27, 2011 about 7pm right before I was going to treat her with some vetRX for the heck of it, herd some weird noises from where she was like flapping on a cage. Ran over there and found her dead with her head sticking through the cage
I examined her really well before she was buried. Her nose was wet, looked down her throat looking for a gapeworm or something and didn't seem much. Seemed like there was white goo in the throat but I don't know if its supposed to be there or not. No signs from bite marks of lice, ticks or fleas, Her feet looked normal, she had white pasty colored discharge coming from her butt, only after I pushed on it (I know gross but was looking for worms) She had stiffened up at this point so was hard to feel anything on her stomach.
Day after I took these pictures of the 6 as it looks like a new problem is going on or they are all about to deteriorate and drop also. Two have really bad lesions on their feet. One of them limps but doesn't appear to be the one with the lesions. All of a sudden notice dark spots on their combs. All sound like they got crap in their nose and throat, they are all shaking their heads all the time almost as if to shake it out. We think the foot problem could be from the Jungle Fowl Hen. She is aggressive and my husband sees her peck the isas feet often, and hard. She is separated now so she can do no further damage. We would like to sell her or eat her, but are unsure if she is sick also, though she never shows signs, and nether does the Kraienkoppe hen we still have also. She keeps to herself mostly but is active and lays a nice egg everyday. She also seems to want to sit on them even tho the roos are gone.
As of today all isa browns have obvious mucus or something, can hear it in their breathing. They Open mouth breath often, sometimes not so often. Usually mostly at night on their roost. Also sit with wings open a bit sometimes at night. A few have "poppy butt" and sometimes will see one having a "pulsing butt" at night. I've looked these things up and it seems like they mean something. The black spots seemed to be going away possibly being pecked by the Jungle Fowl?
Here are some pictures of what they look like right now. Also a photo of some of the bad eggs.
http://thefreerangechicken.com/gallery/chickens
