Sick dog

sounds like she could have had a seizure and she is coming out of it.
Yeah, I was thinking either a seizure or poisoning which is why I asked about incontinence.
make sure no grain food
Well, at least stay away from foods with legumes and potatoes. Grain-free dog foods often contain these which are known to cause heart disease.

Four days, in my opinion, is too long to go without seeing a vet.
 
Yeah, I was thinking either a seizure or poisoning which is why I asked about incontinence.

Well, at least stay away from foods with legumes and potatoes. Grain-free dog foods often contain these which are known to cause heart disease.

Four days, in my opinion, is too long to go without seeing a vet.
i think it depends on your level of ability to care for your animals when to call a vet. i personally have found no benefit and as their prices go up, many people can not afford to go to the vet, plus the waiting times are outrageous, at least where i live. here on a saturday or after hours they charge 300 dollars just to see your animal, and i do not support thievery such as that. they are not gods, and they should not be treated as such. her dog is recovering, so i do not think 4 days is a long time. in the case of a seizure, the faster you catch it, the sooner the recovery. i think a raw diet is preferable and supplementing the food makes a difference. we have done rescue for a long time, and have too many dogs to be able to afford a pure raw diet without dogfood, so we supplement and give out bones and that makes all the difference.

most people may not think about this, but the 5g and the emf's cause a lot of problems that a vet will not catch, nor acknowledge. i love homeopathy herbs and essential oils they work fast and are safe.
 
i think it depends on your level of ability to care for your animals when to call a vet. i personally have found no benefit and as their prices go up, many people can not afford to go to the vet, plus the waiting times are outrageous, at least where i live. here on a saturday or after hours they charge 300 dollars just to see your animal, and i do not support thievery such as that. they are not gods, and they should not be treated as such. her dog is recovering, so i do not think 4 days is a long time. in the case of a seizure, the faster you catch it, the sooner the recovery. i think a raw diet is preferable and supplementing the food makes a difference. we have done rescue for a long time, and have too many dogs to be able to afford a pure raw diet without dogfood, so we supplement and give out bones and that makes all the difference.

most people may not think about this, but the 5g and the emf's cause a lot of problems that a vet will not catch, nor acknowledge. i love homeopathy herbs and essential oils they work fast and are safe.
They do seem to charge too much. Just an anal gland expression is $30 here and they had me put my dog on an extremely over-priced prescription food that is mostly corn. But things like x-rays, IV, and prescription meds could save a dog's life, and a vet is required for those things.
 
She is slowly getting better. Still not running around but she is eating burger and chicken hearts along with the Dyne nutritional supplement twice daily and some probiotics. Nothing personal to people recommending seeing a veterinarian IMO they are mostly greedy and care zero if your animal lives or dies especially non livestock type vets. The vet that requires a "visit" to prescribe flea and tick medication or a "visit" to do a fecal float. Im not going to stress my dog out, take her to a place where she could catch something else. We are in it to win it for her and no one else would be in it for anything else but our bank account. If she had something that required surgery (like some type of blockage) all the vet would be telling us is she is going to die because there is no way we could afford that. Last time I went to a vet was in the late 90s with a puppy with parvo. The vet told me there was no chance of survival and talked me into putting her down. Yeah well thats a lie. Could the dog die? Yep. Is it a 100% death sentence? Nope, and I still feel terrible about that.
 
Just saw this thread for the first time. I think vets are worth what they charge, after all they have to pay for something like 12 years of education after high school. They go to school longer than a human doctor who only needs to know about the human body while vets need to know about so many different animals from mice to cattle. My first thought about your dog was some kind of poisoning, I hope she survives. We've put her on the list over on the Prayer Warriors thread.
 
Just saw this thread for the first time. I think vets are worth what they charge, after all they have to pay for something like 12 years of education after high school. They go to school longer than a human doctor who only needs to know about the human body while vets need to know about so many different animals from mice to cattle.
THIS
...and also paying staff, facility costs, insurance, equipment and diagnostic tools, on-hand vaccines and medications... basically a small fortune just to keep the doors open. A new practice takes years to just break even.
Maybe some of you have had bad experiences (and I have heard very uncomplimentary things about franchise clinics which have corporate set-pricing and the vets are more restricted by policy) but I've found old fashioned private practices have never let me down. My vet has cut me so much slack over the years when emergencies have cropped up, and I have never once questioned his dedication to his patients.
I know this isn't the time or place, but vet-bashing gets to me. No one dedicates years of their life to veterinary school without a love for animals. Its an injustice to say that they are all just in it for the money.

All that aside,
I really hope your dog continues to recover and is back to her old self soon.
Best wishes.
 
At the end of the day, your decisions are always your own, no arguments there.

It's great that you are competent enough to do your own vaccines (I do livestock vaccines myself too) but most every-day pet owners are not up to the task. Some might be as likely to kill a dog as administer a vaccine properly, and documentation cannot be relied upon, opening the doors wide for infectious disease to spread basically unchecked. And it's also lack of regulation that has landed us with problems like antibiotic inefficacy due to overuse and mishandling. The lowest common denominator is the problem with lax regulation... they ruin it for everyone else.
And yeah, vets make a good living after decades of paying their dues and they deserve it. It's a business like anything else, but if you look at the costs associated with running a veterinary hospital vs say... a plumber, I think you'd find the mark-up on services rendered to be far more reasonable than at first glance.
As far a cost of annual visits.. I cringe every year too, but I pay it because at the end of the day, its not just an expensive "license" to buy flea and HW prevention. Your pet is examined head to toe by a trained medical professional. Preventative care often reveals problems that the lay person would not have noticed until disease was far more advanced and in many cases, beyond intervention.

Ok, done now. Sorry for the off-topic digression.
How's your girl doing today?
 
At the end of the day, your decisions are always your own, no arguments there.

It's great that you are competent enough to do your own vaccines (I do livestock vaccines myself too) but most every-day pet owners are not up to the task. Some might be as likely to kill a dog as administer a vaccine properly, and documentation cannot be relied upon, opening the doors wide for infectious disease to spread basically unchecked. And it's also lack of regulation that has landed us with problems like antibiotic inefficacy due to overuse and mishandling. The lowest common denominator is the problem with lax regulation... they ruin it for everyone else.
And yeah, vets make a good living after decades of paying their dues and they deserve it. It's a business like anything else, but if you look at the costs associated with running a veterinary hospital vs say... a plumber, I think you'd find the mark-up on services rendered to be far more reasonable than at first glance.
As far a cost of annual visits.. I cringe every year too, but I pay it because at the end of the day, its not just an expensive "license" to buy flea and HW prevention. Your pet is examined head to toe by a trained medical professional. Preventative care often reveals problems that the lay person would not have noticed until disease was far more advanced and in many cases, beyond intervention.

Ok, done now. Sorry for the off-topic digression.
How's your girl doing today?
She is getting slightly better every day. As sick as she was I think that is about as much as I can hope for. I knew at her peak sickness that this was not going to be something she would recover from miraculously overnight. She slept with the sheep last night for the first time in many days and today she is walking more.
I never intended this thread to be a discussion about animal care professionals and the opinions on/about them. We all know that everyone has different opinions and life experiences. What may seem great for someone may be the last thing someone else would consider. Some people consider people who free range borderline abusive, and some wouldn't have it any other way. Ford, Chevy, Pepsi, Coke. Red, Blue. I respect everyone's right to have their own opinion. Thank you for asking on the progress our dog is making.
 

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