Silkie thread!

[ChickensXOXO]

Yay! I won the auction for the Splash pair we were discussing earlier!!

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=577389

First thing I have EVER bid on... and I won.

 

[FrenchToast]

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Post here or in many places and you will get some people answering that know their stuff and others who do not. Genetics of Chicken Colours is VERY well researched and presented in a manner that makes understanding a complicated subject much simpler. Silkies and Silkie Bantams contains a great deal of historical information that is NOT available online.

X2! All of the people I have spoken to who have it say it is well worth it! There are colors and crosses that I have NEVER seen oh here. There are over 1000 pictures (after that Sigi stopped counting), and explanations that are so in depth and get asked on here so many times, I doubt it will be often that someone will take the time to answer them the way Sigi did. I also like to have it as a reference so I don't have to come on here and ask (and OFTEN get the wrong info). I see people post answers that are clearly wrong all the time! Many people don't correct mistakes on here either because they will be tagged as "mean" or "know it alls". We all have a ton to learn including me and I would prefer to learn it from a world renown expert in genetics! JMHO!

So Rilly10 which of the books are you referring to here?

 

[Little Luna Silkies]

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What were the parents? I believe you can expect about 50% paints with the other 50% being other colors from a paint to black or white mating. I think it's a little higher for paint to paint matings. I'm not sure if it has been confirmed if the "other colors" carry the paint gene, so to speak.

well mom is black dad is white. when i saw her today i was surprised because the last 10 to hatch have been white

So then it's probably not a paint Silkie chick...it's probably a black (or maybe dark blue?) chick and the white tips will go away when it feathers out. It makes complete sense that the previous were all white, because Silkie white is typically recessive and covers all other colors.

 

[Little Luna Silkies]

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YAY! Congrats!

 

[silkielover5]

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well mom is black dad is white. when i saw her today i was surprised because the last 10 to hatch have been white

So then it's probably not a paint Silkie chick...it's probably a black (or maybe dark blue?) chick and the white tips will go away when it feathers out. It makes complete sense that the previous were all white, because Silkie white is typically recessive and covers all other colors.

the parents could both be black. my black hen is 5 years old i thought she stoped laying, i have 3 roosters white, blue, black the white is alfa and will attack any rooster who tries to mate with a hen, i just got the black roo hes about 5 months but i havent seen him attept it yet. so i just figured black and white because shes my white roos favorite hen. ill post pics in a bit

 

[ChickensXOXO]

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YAY! Congrats!

Thank you.

 

[FrenchToast]

I agree, that sounds like a blue or black that will turn solid.
I have a few questions about paints however. All of the paints I've seen are white with black spots. Is it ever the other way around ? Black with white spots or should I say more black feathers then white. Like a black and white paint horse or a black and white cow? I know sounds silly to compare. Are there any that look more like a lepord appalousa horse or dalmation dog then just the white with a few black feathers here and there ?

What is the ultimate goal when breeding for paint silkies?

Another stupid question, does it work like the lav gene, meaning can you have split to paint etc? I know I should read thru all of the previous posts but don't have time right now.

My belief is you have to have a pure black and pure white in order to produce paints. Now days it seems harder to come by them doesn't it? Otherwise I think there would already be more and more paints out there already, no?

 

[silkielover5]

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idk the answer to your questins but there is a paint silkie thread somewhere on here ask the experts.

 

[FrenchToast]

Augghhh ! I subscribe to that thread too and guess I thought this was it !!! Thanks for the heads up, I will do that !!!

 

[robin416]

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The goal at the moment is to get good Silkie type. No decisions have been made on markings since no one at this point has a handle on how the paint gene works. There are still more questions than answers in that regard.

Blacks are being used and some whites to improve type, Silkie characteristics. Europe lost type when they kept breeding paint to paint.

Incorrect on needing pure black and pure white. The white has to be dom white. Silkies are recessive white. That is changing as more paints get out there but that might raise a different challenge as dom white has off coloring in the hackles in the males and some females. So any time a white from paints is sold it needs to be disclosed to the purchaser or they might end up with colors popping up they didn't expect.