Oh sure - go all techno weenie on us!!!!! LOL!
Mauve SiAm feathering out - looks like pullet, but not silkied...... awww well, maybe next time....
Such a cutie, congrats!
And can I go techno weenie on you all if I've been one all along?
Silkied Ameraucana Project
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Such a cutie, congrats!
And can I go techno weenie on you all if I've been one all along?
Oh sure - go all techno weenie on us!!!!! LOL!
Mauve SiAm feathering out - looks like pullet, but not silkied...... awww well, maybe next time....
Tonikaya1
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- Feb 2, 2015
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Is this considered silkied feathering?
The Silkied feather gene is a specific recessive gene pair. It spontaneously appeared in a pure Ameraucana pair hatched some 17 years ago. Would need close ups of the feather structure to see better what you have there.
Tonikaya1
In the Brooder
- Feb 2, 2015
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Thank you @EdenCamp !!! With the unpleasant temps today I probably won't do any photo shoots when I go out there. But maybe soon. I am really interested in this project now that I have learned about it. I know that what I have isn't the right breed for the project but I had never heard of any of this until I started trying to figure out why my chicken looked so different
Now I want to sell all my 2 month old chicks and start over lol (But I'm not going to 
I am a new chicken mom, so the term silkie was not in my mind since I didn't order "silkie" chicks. Out of the mixed order of 13 that I bought, I got two freebies. I recently realized that I have 3 EE's so one of my 3EE's is a freebies, so far it's not obvious that any of the EE's are cockerels. I bought my first batch of chicks from Mt. Healthy Hatcheries. My EE's were sold as "Araucana's." I have since looked back on the website questioning what I had and it reads:
"Araucana/Ameraucanas Chicken (as hatched)
Easter egg chicken
Araucanas/Ameraucanas
Originally from Chile, in South America they are called the Easter egg fowl. They lay colored eggs: blue, green, pink, and olive drab. These birds vary in size and color, some may have whiskers and others muffs of feathers that cover their ears. Their eggs are reported to have more nutritional value than ordinary eggs."
http://www.mthealthy.com/store/948458/product/ARASR
Kinda seems like an odd incorrect mixed description. Anyway, my chick has the green legs/feet and I am quite certain it does not have any extra toes lol I recently learned they are EE's.
Will get more pics soon, would love your take on it. No matter what it is!!! I just know I am loving it's feathering!!!!!
Plus there is no difference in nutritional value of the eggs
Thank you @EdenCamp !!! With the unpleasant temps today I probably won't do any photo shoots when I go out there. But maybe soon. I am really interested in this project now that I have learned about it. I know that what I have isn't the right breed for the project but I had never heard of any of this until I started trying to figure out why my chicken looked so different
Easter egg chicken
Araucanas/Ameraucanas Originally from Chile, in South America they are called the Easter egg fowl. They lay colored eggs: blue, green, pink, and olive drab. These birds vary in size and color, some may have whiskers and others muffs of feathers that cover their ears. Their eggs are reported to have more nutritional value than ordinary eggs." http://www.mthealthy.com/store/948458/product/ARASR Kinda seems like an odd incorrect mixed description. Anyway, my chick has the green legs/feet and I am quite certain it does not have any extra toes lol I recently learned they are EE's. Will get more pics soon, would love your take on it. No matter what it is!!! I just know I am loving it's feathering!!!!!
Ahh Ok, couple of things - there are only 1 or 2 hatcheries that recently actually started to sell real Ameraucanas - they list something like $15 each. All the others sell EE and some outright lie calling them Ameraucanas or Aracauna. Some get cute labeling them Americauna with an "I". Hatcheries do not sell quality anything - they sell mass quantities of production birds. They've done all this for so long there are a ton of backyard people out there that think they have Ameraucanas, are hatching and selling "Ameraucana to more people that don't know any different. Not a thing wrong with EE's - they are great birds - but they are NOT Ameraucana, they are NOT Aracauna. And with all the people that "think" what they have is and isn't, it's very hard for new people wanting the "real deal" not to end up with something else.
Something else to be aware of - MT Healthy, well, isn't. The poultry officials are trying to close them down permanently as they have had outbreaks of PT (pullorum typhoid) AKA salmonella in their poultry for each of the last 3 years running.
The original thread for Silkied Ameraucanas (SiAms) was "What's wrong with their feathers" - it's an odyssey of the beginnings of this project. Sorting out that this was not a cross breeding of silkie breed birds or any number of genetic or nutritional issues. People still get confused with the name and think these are crosses rather than the spontaneous mutation of a SINGLE pair of purebred Ameraucana. So you do have people out there crossing silkies and EE or what ever, but that is not what these birds are. All SiAms are decendants of that single pair in TX.
I'm not saying there is no chance of birds carrying this gene getting out of the hands of people working or that worked on the project - a lot of "maybe" splits are put out into flocks as EEs rather than culled. But the chances of 2 of those offspring being mated somewhere down the line and producing a silkied chick is small. Most likely what you have is someone has crossed a silkie breed bird into what ever. Those are usually packing extra toes, black skinned.
This is not an easy project, the full silkied birds are often delicate. VERY few people have breeding pens containing more than split to silkied birds. Even those will have only a handful of silkied breeding stock. Most of them are splash, a few blues. Only a couple of us have blacks. There are people working on different color variations - lav, choc and some others in the works. Eggs are hard to come by and dear. Split chicks , juvies or cockerels rarely. I've only seen silkied birds offered once by someone getting completely out of birds. People interested in the project are encouraged to read the original thread in its entirety to understand what they are signing up for. Find someone with a few eggs they will part with and be prepared to have to it be difficult to work your way up to breeding and having silkied Ams of your own. We do want to support and encourage enthusiastic and dedicated new people to come on board with this project - we just hate wasting our shots at hatching them on people that think they are neat and then flake when they realize it's not a cake walk. Hope I didn't come across too harsh, not my intent, just trying to lay it out there clearly what the scoop is on this project.
Something else to be aware of - MT Healthy, well, isn't. The poultry officials are trying to close them down permanently as they have had outbreaks of PT (pullorum typhoid) AKA salmonella in their poultry for each of the last 3 years running.
The original thread for Silkied Ameraucanas (SiAms) was "What's wrong with their feathers" - it's an odyssey of the beginnings of this project. Sorting out that this was not a cross breeding of silkie breed birds or any number of genetic or nutritional issues. People still get confused with the name and think these are crosses rather than the spontaneous mutation of a SINGLE pair of purebred Ameraucana. So you do have people out there crossing silkies and EE or what ever, but that is not what these birds are. All SiAms are decendants of that single pair in TX.
I'm not saying there is no chance of birds carrying this gene getting out of the hands of people working or that worked on the project - a lot of "maybe" splits are put out into flocks as EEs rather than culled. But the chances of 2 of those offspring being mated somewhere down the line and producing a silkied chick is small. Most likely what you have is someone has crossed a silkie breed bird into what ever. Those are usually packing extra toes, black skinned.
This is not an easy project, the full silkied birds are often delicate. VERY few people have breeding pens containing more than split to silkied birds. Even those will have only a handful of silkied breeding stock. Most of them are splash, a few blues. Only a couple of us have blacks. There are people working on different color variations - lav, choc and some others in the works. Eggs are hard to come by and dear. Split chicks , juvies or cockerels rarely. I've only seen silkied birds offered once by someone getting completely out of birds. People interested in the project are encouraged to read the original thread in its entirety to understand what they are signing up for. Find someone with a few eggs they will part with and be prepared to have to it be difficult to work your way up to breeding and having silkied Ams of your own. We do want to support and encourage enthusiastic and dedicated new people to come on board with this project - we just hate wasting our shots at hatching them on people that think they are neat and then flake when they realize it's not a cake walk. Hope I didn't come across too harsh, not my intent, just trying to lay it out there clearly what the scoop is on this project.
I have a hatchery silkie rooster with the wrong color skin and barely any leg feathering. Funnily enough he has slate legs. Knowing this some people may have someke him and try to cross them with ameraucanaus. Not good since the extra toe is still present and with mine the wattles would mess it up plus the different combs would pose a problem. Am I correct?
Hatchery Silkies aren't the best breed examples for the same reasons - they are bred for production - the more they lay the more babies the hatcheries can sell. A good breeder is VERY selective in what stock they use for breeding and focus on the breed standards. Dosen't mean it's not cute and like you said, the eggs taste the same.
Again, there is and was NO silky cross bred into the SiAms - EVER, they are PURE AMERAUCANA.
Silkied refers to the mutant recessive feather structure only. I believe it's been identified as the ST-2 gene.
Silkie is a breed of chicken with the same feather structure but is a completely different breed.
Silkies have black skin/feet and extra toes.
Ams have white skin, slate legs, bottoms of the feet are white, no extra toes, pea comb, no wattles, muffs and a beard.
Again, there is and was NO silky cross bred into the SiAms - EVER, they are PURE AMERAUCANA.
Silkied refers to the mutant recessive feather structure only. I believe it's been identified as the ST-2 gene.
Silkie is a breed of chicken with the same feather structure but is a completely different breed.
Silkies have black skin/feet and extra toes.
Ams have white skin, slate legs, bottoms of the feet are white, no extra toes, pea comb, no wattles, muffs and a beard.
Just checked my two Broodies and I have 9 silkied or split to silkied chicks. Another week and I'll know how many silkied. Starting to get a lot of these chicks. Yay. And lots more eggs in the bator.
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