Hi @LynnaePB, quick question for you: you had mentioned in a previous post (way too hard to find it in all these pages ) that you often make a safety hole with valuable eggs. Eko is now chirping in the egg, I believe s(he) internally pipped around 10 pm my time, could have been sooner, but that is when I saw it. When should I a make the safety hole? It has been about 12 hours so far, I have waited too long in the past and I have also intervened too early in the past. I am trying to be a little more hands off, but I also do not want to lose this one surviving (so far) chick.