silver pied chicks

[frenchblackcopper]

Country_girl011,,Your post starter asks about sexing "silver pieds" not BSSP,,,I at present have 1 dark pied hen and 2 silver pied hens that are NOT b/s,,I also have a young Dark pied male but have not bred any for pied chicks.In a way I would like to have these birds grouped together next spring for breeding just Pieds without the B/S. I need to look at both sexes of these adults and see if my male has rusty brown colored flights or not.I think the hens do but not sure.But if they are like the BSSP with hens carrying this flight feather coloring and not the males,I would asume sexing them would be the same and could be done at 2-3 weeks of age.

 

[country_girl011]

Im not sure i have found very little on sexing the silver pieds

 

[peafowlmom]

The pics w/the purple and white bag are the same chic. W/out bag same chic. From my phone to husbands to computer to here. What a tangle! Can you tell if these will be males or females? More pics tomorrow of the young chics, 1 is already getting color.

 

[frenchblackcopper]

Pics 1&3 looks like a dark pied,pics 2&4 looks silver pied. Both seems to have the same amount of rust coloring on their wings. I'm betting they are both the same sex at this point in time,but I cannot say what sex they will be until I look at my adult pieds some more later today.As I showed today with BSSP birds,the adult males do not have any rust-brown at all in their wing feathers and the hens do.This is just the opposite of IB/BS,Opal BS,and Midnight B/S male chicks has because these colors of adult peas all retain the rusty tan color in their outer flight feathers.Maybe later today I can snap a few pics of my adult dark-silver pieds and we can make some comparisions based on facts the pictures shows.

 

[peafowlmom]

These are Black Shoulder's. Sorry I didn't specify. So if I understand they will be hens? They are about a month 1/2 old.

 

[frenchblackcopper]

If they are b/s silver pied chicks,I'm leaning towards both being hens because of the rust coloring in their flights.This too is my first year with hatching any sizable numbers of BSSP peachicks,,compared to buying a few hatching eggs and only seeing 2-3 chicks hatch all year.I may be wrong here and will be the first to admit it when proven otherwise,,but the very first 2 peachicks I hatched on May 20th were both Opal b/s,,hatched another Opal b/s chick 4 days later that by 3 weeks of age looked nothing like the first two.I've now hatched Midnight b/s as well in enough numbers to also make daily comparisons which seems to hold true
.But these BSSP are completely the opposite of other b/s chicks if you base your opinions on observing the parents.My 5 yr old Male BSSP does not have any rust-tan feathers on him anywhere.But every b/s hen I have here does have this color on their flight feathers,some more than others.(If anyone here owns an adult breeding aged BSSP Peacock with rusty tan-brown flights please advise) but this is how I'm assuming the sex at this point in this color-pattern.I think at this early point we should keep track here and keep this thread going as time progresses.Learning and close observation will verify the sex as time moves on and they reach a larger size.This could be the early signs of how to sex a BSSP chick correctly.But if my breeding BSSP Peacock is unique in the fact that he maybe is one of very few that does not have rusty flights,then my opinion on sexing bssp chicks in wing flights color is wrong and we'll need to look at other diffrences.

 

[peafowlmom]

I am sorry. They are just Black Shoulders, only, wish silver pied. A lady needs a female to go with a male and I still don't understand how to tell the difference. She has been breeding at least 10 yrs and doesn't know how to tell. If YOU figure this out, (I'm hopeless) than thank you so very much. All my BS look pretty much alike, where you saying their flight feathers are the telling difference?

 

[frenchblackcopper]

At this point,,Peafowlmom,,you saying they are just b/s and NOT BSSP,,,this is another reason I STILL Believe they are both hens,,,all my BS hens have WHITE heads,,and both your chicks has WHITE heads.They just don't have that very noticable "mottled" or "blotchy" appearance across their backs indicating them to become males.Your 3rd pic of that chicks seems to be missing a lot of feathers on it's back.B/S peachicks that will become hens do not get the patchwork quilt look on their backs like males.B/S male chicks around 3 wks old really begin to standout.A lot of black pigment begins to show especially on the back,then to their covert wing feathers.I don't see this in your chicks and they are 5 wks old,,if they both continue to lighten in color,,hands down--hens.

 

[peafowlmom]

AWESOME, I KNEW YOU WOULD KNOW!!!! YAY!!

 

[peafowlmom]

YOU SEEM TO BE VERY INTELLIGENT. I HOPE YOU WRITE UP A COMPUTER THREAD- TEACHING WHAT YOU KNOW, LIKE DEERMAN DID- ON YOUR FINDINGS WHEN THIS IS DONE.I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PERSEVERANCE ON THIS SUBJECT.